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2000 rpm at 100km/h ... normal ?

If someone can confirm me RPM at 100km/h when car is running on highway

I have a CVT versa 2012 so let me know if it is normal because dealer said yes.


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Sounds normal to me. When I first got my 2015, I was learning how to drive it to maximize fuel economy. That speed is slower than I usually drive, but at around 75MPH (120KPH?) my tach was reading 2500RPM on level ground, so 2000RPM sounds normal at that speed. The CVT really is great at maximizing speed for minimum effort from the engine.
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THanks for this answer ... your comment about CVT option for fuel economy is the major positif element of this car.

Second is the lower cost to buy one and after that is many options that you have with SL version.

But for having fun with this car is not the same than my VW 1991 and Civic 1990 but that is perfect car for day to day !
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'The CVT really is great at maximizing speed for minimum effort from the engine.'

I'd be careful with that, minimizing rpm on a small displacement engine leads to lugging and 2000 rpm at those speeds is getting pretty close to that. That kind of load is NOT minimum effort.

I don't have one but one thing I know, once the engines begin to lose their edge from ring wear past maybe 150K miles then that kind of load can force the need for a reflash of computer as the engines will not have the torque they had when new and that much gear will be hard on them. I've run into the problem with 4 speed OD ATXs that Ford makes. The same gearing that seems to work well with a new tight engine then appears to be way too much once the engine gets older. Small fours don't handle that nearly so well as bigger V-6 and -8 do as they don't have an excess of torque to give away.

One of the things they won't tell you when trying to talk you into buying a new car. Among about 500 others.
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If someone can confirm me RPM at 100km/h when car is running on highway

I have a CVT versa 2012 so let me know if it is normal because dealer said yes.


DD
Well the Suzuki 993 cc engine in 5th gear runs at 3000 RPM on a Geo Metro at that speed. So it is reasonable.
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Worlds of difference between 2000 and 3000 rpm in high gear. 3000 was a norm for oldschool cars; now with OD closer to 2500 at 60-65 mph. Get down around 2000 and you're lugging as anything under 2000 is doing it at those speeds and asking to knock out bearings.
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My 1990 honda civic runs at 2300-2500 at 100km with a 4 speeds automatic ...

But i dont know if this CVT will be more durable than my 26 years old transmission ...

Anyway i think that it is not a bad transmission but it's a completly different to drive this CVT compare of this 4 speed automatic.

Also, Nissan can now spray a thin coat of metal on surface of motor cylinder so this is why that motor design are not the same than 25 years ago.


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'Also, Nissan can now spray a thin coat of metal on surface of motor cylinder so this is why that motor design are not the same than 25 years ago.'

Uh, no, they've been able to do that for like 40 years plus. You are sadly mistaken as well if you think that plating is superior to oldschool iron cylinder linings too. It's done to be CHEAPER and to make sure the engines fail to be more reliably junked to sell more new cars. It's harder and more costly to rebuild plated cylinder engines. I junked 2 stroke bikes for that back in the '70s.

I do not know myself if these are iron liner or not but if that process you speak of is used on these Versa then it would explain much of the massive MR18DE failures, I'll be researching that one.

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It looks like these cannot be bored, I get no oversize pistons available out of the service manual. Anything wrong with block and it gets scrapped rather than reworked.

You are correct, the design is not the same, it's CRAPPIER. Plasma sprayed plating is very picky and operator asleep at the wheel you get scads of garbage engines...............

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I dont think that you can use Lazer like Nissan and other manufacturer can do ...

So dont confirm me that you are able to do it ...

New process is develop so that makes motor more powerful !

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