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Service Schedule - Oil Changes, etc?

My friend bought a 2015 Versa Note SL Tech a few months ago. The salesperson told her it had an oil change light. I drove her car a few days ago and noticed it was at 8,800 miles, and she still hadn't had an oil change. I decided to investigate.

Am I correct that the Versa Note does NOT have an oil change indicator? I thought all new cars had them.

Being that there's no oil change indicator, what is Nissan's oil change interval? I know 3000 miles is stupid, but what are they going to require for warranty? I looked in the owner's manual and couldn't find any actual service schedule.

Also, is the filter accessible without lifting the car?

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I know when i bought my 2015 note 3 weeks ago i asked the same question, how many miles will void my warrenty, will it get voided at 3001, 5001, etc. im not sure if it was just my nissan dealer but he told me that it wont void as long as its within " reasonable distance from an oil change. So keep your receipts and you might be able to get away with that 8000, dont quote me on it but i would speak to your dealer
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No oil change indicator light. 3,000-5,000 miles is normal for conventional oil .
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I managed to find a service schedule from Nissan FINALLY.... 3750 for harsh conditions, 7500 miles for "normal" conditions. So she's not far past that. My '15 Fiat 500 is 4000 or 8000 miles, depending upon driving conditions indicated by an oil change light. So 7500 sounds about right for a 15 Note. Most manufacturers have extended conventional oil out to that range these days.

What bugs me is that A) in 2015, it still doesn't have an oil change indicator which I thought was pretty much standard now (even if just based on miles), and B) that the dealer lied to her and said it does have one.

She doesn't want to believe me that she needs an oil change - and wants to wait for the indicator light.
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So keep your receipts and you might be able to get away with that 8000, dont quote me on it but i would speak to your dealer
Speaking to the dealer would probably be the WORST thing to do here actually... they will record "Didn't change oil" and boom, any future warranty including her extended she bought (which I advised against but she listened to the salesman), would be null and void.

Better that I change it this weekend, and then record 7000 on MyCarFax.
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Just follow the manufacturer recommendation, those indicators are pointless in any car. They only come on based on specific drive cycles this is not a good indication as it does not actually physically analyze the oil condition. For that you would have to send the oil out to a lab for testing or check it yourself.

Besides oil changes are cheap why not get it done compared to a price of a new engine.

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I managed to find a service schedule from Nissan FINALLY.... 3750 for harsh conditions, 7500 miles for "normal" conditions. So she's not far past that. My '15 Fiat 500 is 4000 or 8000 miles, depending upon driving conditions indicated by an oil change light. So 7500 sounds about right for a 15 Note. Most manufacturers have extended conventional oil out to that range these days.

What bugs me is that A) in 2015, it still doesn't have an oil change indicator which I thought was pretty much standard now (even if just based on miles), and B) that the dealer lied to her and said it does have one.

She doesn't want to believe me that she needs an oil change - and wants to wait for the indicator light.
Per Nissan Service Maintenance Guide:

https://owners.nissanusa.com/content...ance-guide.pdf

proper oil change interval is 5000 miles or 6 months (whichever comes first), see page 18.

There is no oil change light on the Note. Can't expect much from a cheap car.
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Disregard all manufacturer service intervals from 2007 up, they are all artificially extended in an effort to remain competitive with each other and reduce average cost of maintenance on paper, for warranty period. Use 5000KM intervals, OEM filters and you will have no engine problems or excessive carbon and/or sludge. If you do excessive idling, go synthetic. Pay a little now or a lot later.

The reason the Versa/Note doesn't have a driver/user interface/information system beyond the digital odometer/trip odometer is because using the one that every other next level up Nissan/Infiniti model has would increase the cost of the Versa/Note too much since not only are the differences in the cluster but also the wiring for the OCI calculation, IPDM is different/more complex, BCM has more transistors and integrated controllers making it much more expensive to produce. It just couldn't be fitted across their entire line because it wouldn't have remained competitive with the Fit/Aveo/Sonic. It wouldn't have been the bargain it is, because you do get those things in all the competitors mentioned, and you pay for it.

As mentioned time and time again they are useless anyways. It's a relatively simple calculation that is much dumber than just going by mileage, and checking it once a week. I have seen engines die because people rely on OCI rather than mileage.

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for warranty follow manufacturers specifications and keep receipts. After warranty just make sure she has oil in her .

I go 7500 miles myself. I use cheap synthetic and premium filters. My car is about to hit 170,000 miles and runs perfect. I drive alot so there is no way I am changing the oil every 3k miles or so. Will my car not last as long because of this? I think it will last just as long and I will have more money in my pocket and time on my hands from not doing so many oil changes. By the time there is a noticeable affect from the extended oil change intervals the car will be so old and have so many other things wrong with it that it will get scrapped.

My first and second car I did 3k miles changes and sold it running with over 200k miles. Third car I stuck a turbo on and did 5k miles changes and sold it running with over 200k miles. Now my Versa I do 7500 mile oil changes, went 10k a couple of times, and I bet I sell it running with over 200k miles.


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.........As mentioned time and time again they are useless anyways. It's a relatively simple calculation that is much dumber than just going by mileage, and checking it once a week. I have seen engines die because people rely on OCI rather than mileage.
This may be true many years ago but not any more. Once you have all the sensors installed in a higher line car, it does not cost much to add a more sophisticated software algorithm to make sure the engine is protected with good oil (as they say in the auto industry - "software is free").

Essentially the software program looks for extreme conditions that the engine is exposed to (low or high coolant temps for prolonged periods, super low or high ambients, high RPMs, stop and go traffic, extended high load/towing periods, "granny cycle" usage, etc.), basically conditions that will deteriorate the oil faster. Simply "going by mileage" will not let you know if your engine was exposed to these conditions.

In theory, regular oil will last quite a long time (>20,000 miles) if the engine is not exposed to the conditions mentioned above. Overall, synthetic oil will give you better protection because it will deteriorate slower than regular oil.

Other than making sure you have the proper oil level in your crankcase, not sure what you meant by "check the oil once a week". Are you looking for the change in the color of the oil or how it smells?

Also I'm not sure if there is any historical/documented facts supporting your statement that OCI actually makes engine fail earlier. That's a bit doubtful as I would think OEMs would not want to pay for added warranty just to lower their "cost of ownership" index.

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