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Help: '15 Nissan Versa Note Won't Start/Technician Says Nothing is Wrong

My car is a 2015 Nissan Versa Note. It's a great car that I thoroughly enjoy! Last week my car would not start. When I turned the key in the ignition the lights would come on (both internal & external), my radio would also come on, and as far as warning lights - all of those came on. The car sounded like it was trying to start (like the whooshing sound of vacuum), but the engine would not turn over. I had my car towed to a Nissan repair shop for a diagnostic test, but my technician said that the car started when it got there. He said there was nothing wrong with my car, but my car would not start for days. Does anyone have any insight or experienced something similar?
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Please stop creating multiple threads and copy/pasting your plea into other people's threads, this is the third time you've copy/pasted this and you need only post once per issue please (ideally after first using the search feature to find out if your specific question or issue has been asked and answered before).

If you have an automatic/CVT you must press and hold the brake pedal in order to start the car.
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arudlang,

I'm sorry that asking for help created such a problem in your Wednesday. Thank you for the advice both on posting and with the car.

I sincerely hope your day gets better.
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You are not creating a problem with my day today, you are contributing to a potential future problem for myself and an unknown number of future users trying to navigate and browse the forum at a later date. Some of us plan to drive these cars for a good long while and we'd like to have a nice organized forum to collect valuable and helpful information to help ourselves and others for years to come, so here comes a rant!

I am an active member on many automotive forums, since I have many cars and am an avid enthusiast. Over on geometroforum.com they are dealing with a series of cars some of which were built before I was born. The geos were around for a long time and many people like myself continue to drive and fix them up today. The geo metro forum is a rich and vast wealth of information on all topics imaginable covering those cars, the collective troubleshooting advice is almost bottomless over there from years of people asking questions and kindly getting answers. There is almost nothing that hasn't been previously covered. There is so much information that browsing it, organizing it, searching it, and getting the useful bits you need can be a bit of a challenge at times. Keeping duplication down and common threads together is a major initiative over there and in any healthy forum to keep information from splintering and becoming too scattered to be useful to anyone.

I and a lot of other people are capable of providing assistance to you and to each other here, for free no less, but it is our obligation to be at least a little bit self regulating and try to stay organized to keep this relatively new forum from becoming a useless cesspool of garbage posts and threads. When you copy your rather generic and un-detailed request for help and paste it into multiple new threads and into other people's threads that are unrelated to your request you are basically polluting our forum and being both narrow-minded and selfish.

Nobody here is getting paid to help you, nobody here has any reason to give you the time of day except out of the goodness of their hearts, the willingness to share what they know based on little more than the shared camaraderie of us all driving roughly the same car that we all enjoy so much.

Thats roughly the end of my rant. Now back to your car starting problem, the thing is you are not giving the folks here much information to go on. Thats part of why its frustrating to see if copy and pasted in three places. Things like "Is your car a manual, or automatic? CVT? How many miles? Which type of ignition? (Do you have a key or a push to start fob?)" are all relevant pieces of information that would help. Without details, we are all the way at the very basics of car starting which consists of "Was the car in park when you tried to start it? (Most will not start if left in D or reverse)" "Was the brake pedal pressed when you tried to start it? (Many people don't realize this has become a safety thing on modern automatic cars)" "Can you hear some kind of loud CLICK from the engine compartment when you turn the key? (gives some indication of whether the starter solenoid is receiving the signal to start)" "Have you checked your oil level? (Not likely in this car, but some have a low oil level sensor and will not allow the car to start in that condition)" "Does the key turn freely as normal or does anything feel off about it? (Resistance to turn can be a bad sign, but may simply be jammed against the steering wheel lock)"

The lack of details makes us need to ask all these basic questions, which probably annoys you because likely you are not needing quite that elementary level of advice but how are we supposed to know without more information from you? And if we make assumptions about what you know about cars and a simple answer slips through the cracks, its just a painful way to get to the bottom of your problem, ya know?

Barring all the above, you say all the warning lights come on and that by itself is normal when you turn the ignition on in any car, typically it will light up like a christmas tree momentarily essentially just to show the bulbs or LEDs back there are not burnt out yet. Whats important is if any of those warning lights stay on for longer than a few seconds, or if any special message displays in the LCD readout (in the words of the nissan owners manual, 'if so equipped').

Now believe me when I say I am not taking you for an idiot, no matter how my words may come off. I believe you would have told us if any special message was being displayed, but the long and the short of it is that its tough to troubleshoot from hundreds or thousands of miles away with three or four sentences of text loosely describing the issue.

Honest advice, take it as a fluke for now and be prepared to take a short video of the issue if possible with your phone if the issue ever pops up again. Pictures used to be worth a thousand words, now it pretty much takes a video when you are talking about getting mechanical troubleshooting help from people over the internet.

If you actually stick around on the forum after getting the help or information you need, hopefully I won't come off as a huge crabby pants to you forever but it is what it is, your copy/paste post is the trademark move of someone who whips up a free account just to make a series of messy posts about their issue and demand free help from the rest of us until its resolved and then leave and never log in again leaving nothing but a bunch of copy/pasted blobs that all the rest of us have to sort through for however many years the forum and our cars last, making some of the rest of us wonder why we even bother trying to help.

See the rant is starting up again... I really gotta learn to just ignore these kinds of posts and move past them like the other people do...
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How old is the starter battery? Is this a push to start car or you twist the key? Has the starter battery been tested? Is it really cold where you are? Are you pushing the clutch all the way to the floor? Are you pressing the brake like above? What if you push the gas half way while cranking? Is it cranking that you can tell, clicking or is it just making a wushing noise like a vacuum?

The wushing noise could be the starter gear not engaging the flywheel meaning you need a new starter. Sometimes rocking the car or hitting the starter with a small hammer can help that.

A bad battery gets worse when its cold out, so if the car was towed to a warm garage it would do better.
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The wushing noise could be the starter gear not engaging the flywheel meaning you need a new starter. Sometimes rocking the car or hitting the starter with a small hammer can help that.
Ahhh now there goes the lightbulb in my head, I could not figure out what you meant by "like the whooshing sound of vacuum" but if the starter SPINS and the drive gear fails to move out and contact the flywheel teeth that would sorta make a whooshing/air sound I suppose.. (Cobb has a better imagination than me)

That would make your starter solenoid the prime suspect. They don't always just up and fail completely, sometimes they are temperamental and choose when they do and don't feel like working. I have a brand new starter solenoid on my S10 truck that only works 90% of the time, the rest of the time it wants a little beating with a hammer before its willing to click in and go. Reminds me I really need to swap in that replacement solenoid I bought...

If it happened just the one time, maybe a fluke. If it happens again, try rapping on the starter a bit with something hard (if you can ID it and reach it) and see it that gets it to go. If it does then take it to a shop and tell them you want a new starter solenoid.
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Yeah, use to be something called a bendix that moved the gear into place, but it chews up the flex plate/flywheel. Other starters use the solenoid relay as an electric magnet to slip the gear into place when the motor rotates. This is why its made into some starters. Other times its just a big honking relay and mounted elsewhere on the car under the hood.

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