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Engine overheated

Hi guys
I have nissan tiida 2008. Recently the engine is overheated while idle and A/C is on. Already replaced new red fan, thermostate and new red. Nothing changed and the issue still there. Please anyone has faced such problem??
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Hi guys
I have nissan tiida 2008. Recently the engine is overheated while idle and A/C is on. Already replaced new red fan, thermostate and new red. Nothing changed and the issue still there. Please anyone has faced such problem??
Silly answer...did you replace radiator cap? Have you tested for a bad head gasket? Water pump functioning? Do you have a temperature gauge? My thermostat is 180*f and car stays no higher then 183*f Let us know what you found, I'm curious...
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Hi guys
I have nissan tiida 2008. Recently the engine is overheated while idle and A/C is on. Already replaced new red fan, thermostate and new red. Nothing changed and the issue still there. Please anyone has faced such problem??
If you replaced everything you said you did, you might try burping:

Symptoms are an engine that runs hotter than normal, a temperature gauge that indicates hotter temperatures during high speed (highway) operation, inconsistent heat coming from your heater, and overflowing when the engine reaches normal operating temperature or after a hot shut down. The reason for all these symptoms is simple: the air can't remove or dissipate heat the way liquid can, and it prevents the coolant from flowing properly through the system. Coolant also expands as it heats up, which is the reason it overflows. The trapped air takes up space in the cooling system normally occupied by coolant, so there's no place else for it to go.

Fortunately, this is an easy problem to remedy. Most mechanics will do this after working on your cooling system, but sometimes it takes more than one attempt to remove all the air, especially after a major service operation like radiator or heater core replacement, although simple tasks like installing a new thermostat or hose can also trap air in the system.

In essence, you want to "burp" your cooling system to remove the trapped air. Start with a cold engine. Remove the radiator cap and fill it to the recommended level with a 50/50 mixture of antifreeze and water. Make sure any auxiliary tanks are also at the proper cold fill level. With the radiator cap off, start the engine. Make sure your heater is set to maximum defrost. This is important because most cars, especially those with automatic temperature control heating and air conditioning, allow coolant to flow through the heater core while warming up, to help clear the windshield. If controls are set for heat, the system may keep the heater core closed off until the engine warms up. You don't want that to happen in this case. You want 100% circulation of the coolant. Let the engine operate long enough to warm up enough to reduce the idle speed to a normal idle.

Let it idle until it's at normal operating temperature, keeping an eye on the temperature gauge or light. Do not let your car overheat! Overheating can cause additional problems, such as blowing your head gasket, even warping your carburetor. Once the thermostat begins to open, it's also very important to not rev the engine, even slightly, as this will force coolant out of the open radiator.

You might notice some bubbling of coolant out of the open radiator during warm up. This bubbling is normal if you have air trapped in your system, and is caused by the air escaping as it reaches the area of the open radiator cap. Unless the bubbling is excessive, continue to let the engine run at idle for a few minutes once it reaches normal operating temperature, then shut it down. Allow the engine and cooling system to cool off, preferably overnight. Then check your coolant level again. If it dropped, that means you've displaced some of the air in your system. Refill to proper levels, and repeat the process. Do this until the level doesn't drop any longer, then replace your radiator cap and check your coolant levels at least monthly, or weekly during hot weather.
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If the new fan is not on when it's overheating you changed it for nothing. It has to have working electrical to turn on or it simply sits there doing nothing while the engine burns down.

And if you got the car hot enough the first time you may have done engine damage to make it do it over and over now, nothing will fix that other than engine repair.
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This is why its a good idea to measure the coolant when its draining and adding it back. Second, you should use a chemical flush if not a water flush to get any crap out of the system.

Do you know if the fan new or old even works? It should come on when you turn on the ac on a low speed. If your car is warm it should also come on low. If your car is warm and ac is on then it goes to high speed.

My 2017 seems to have a variable speed fan. You can here it ramp up and down as cooling needs change. Other cars I have own its off and on.

Is your front of the car blocked or covered? Do you have a bra on the front of your car or plastic shopping bag caught on the radiator?
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Almost all fans now have at least 2 speeds and sometimes 3 even. Lower speeds often gained by using resistor, that can be an issue when they melt, or the power relay that powers the fan can be bad too. Way more than one way the cars can overheat.
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thanks for replying.
when i bought the red it comes without cap so i tightened the old one. the thermostat is 85c. but it seems trapped air issue as one commenter mentioned. problem is fixed thank you.
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thank you sir for valuable information.
i did what you have just mentioned and i went along with removing the thermostat. the issue is fixed. waited for 30 min with idle engine and ac is on, no red light appear.
thank you so much
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