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sgvaibhav 07-30-2013 10:09 AM

How to use polish and wax?
 
Hi,


I recently got Turtle Wax, and Turtle Polish (scratch remover).

I only have one buffing machine with one pad...

I cannot figure out how to use use the wax and polish to get maximum results....

The instructions didn't help me much...

When i tried using the polish and wax only on my boot, i ended up with uniform pointed scratches everywhere...

Whats the most straight forward way/simple way to get satisfactory results using turtle polish and turtle wax.


Tools i have in possession-
2 sponge (1 was provided with the wax)
cloths
Buffer with one cotton pad.


Edit - i think its turtle polishing compound (i dont know the difference between polish and polishing compound)

AusTiida 07-30-2013 10:40 AM

I've been selling polishes and car care gear for nearly ten years and use pretty much all of them (well, on the Aussie market anyway) and my first bit of feedback would be to ask what you want to achieve.

A compound is usually rather harsh, so I assume you bought it because you're paint is really bad?

1. First of all, a polish cleans the paint and usually removes scratches, a wax should then protect it.

Now this does make it hard to understand when so many companies say they're products do both but don't believe the hype. You wanna do it right, so buy the right products for the job.

2. Put your buffer into the cupboard and lock the door.

More harm usually comes than good with power buffers. Unless you know how to use it, 99% of the time you're causing yourself more work and getting less results.

3. Buy quality products. Ten years ago I would have backed a Turtle product but I feel they've dropped the ball the last five or so years. If you love your car, buy a decent products like Meguiars and use them. They constantly push the boundaries and constantly improve their products, unlike a huge amount of products on the market.

4. Check you're doing what you need to be doing. Does the car actually need a polish? If it's nice and shiny when clean anyway, just wax it so it protects and gives you a longer lasting shine. If it's a bit dull, buy a lightweight polish. If it has fine scratches buy a fine scratch remover. Don't expect any product to do magic, they just don't.

5. Make sure the car is super clean, and cool (do not polish or wax in the sun, even if the product says you can).

6. Stop being lazy. Use your hands. Use an applicator pad or foam pad to apply the wax or polish on, doing small areas at a time (done properly a car like ours would take a good two hours to polish). Let the polish or wax sit for a short period (10-15 minutes while you work on the next panel) then buff off gently with a microfiber polishing towel or a soft cotton cloth.

Start with the roof, then bonnet, boot then doors and guards. Take your time.

7. Run your hand gently over a buffed panel and 'feel' the polish. Is it smooth? Is it easy to run your hand over it? If not, do it again.

8. When you're done, clean your windshield (externally) with mentholated spirits or vinegar to clean it off, then use some polish to polish your glass. Your wiper blades will last heaps longer and rain will run off your glass much faster.

9. Crack a stubby and sit back and enjoy looking at your shiny beast :)

If you can access Meguiars products lemme know, I can recommend some great products (although I usually prefer to see the car to check the paintwork).

- Woody

sgvaibhav 07-30-2013 07:44 PM

Hi,

Actually my car has some scratches, especially on door panels due to other cars hitting my car, so i thought polish can help me to remove or atleast lighten these scratches.
Actually i thought polish compound and polish are all the same so I bought it.

I rarely buy products for cleaning/detailing the car, and this it the first time i brought a product in 2 years to work on my car.

Since it is mine first time of buying car detailing products, i was astounded with the different types of products available.

I thought turtle wax was a good company.
Basically my car has lost its shine/looks dull, the paint doesnt feel slippery/smooth, and my paint has been scratched here and there because its been hit by other doors.
My primary aim is to restore the shine and smoothness back, however I saw polish compound for a cheap price and I thought of trying it.

Honestly, i have no idea of how to use these products.


Now looking upon your instructions to use these products, I have some questions...

As you said use a foam pad to apply the wax or polish....
Do i rub it on the panel with force until it gets dry?
I just cannot visualize this, keep rubbing left and right with force till the product is left dry (it was left dry in white color on my silver car last time, and i had to pour water to let it out)

Quote:

Let the polish or wax sit for a short period (10-15 minutes while you work on the next panel) then buff off gently with a microfiber polishing towel or a soft cotton cloth.
if i am just using a cotton towel, what is exactly meant by buffing it off...
Because the wax and polish compound are now dry, and it is very hard to rub the panel.


I can access Meguiars products, however i would like using Turtle Wax products since I have already brought them. My next bottle of wax would ofcourse be Meguiars.

So it will be great if u can advice me on how to use wax (and polish compound if its safe to use) using my hands and minimal products such as foam pad and cotton cloth since i don't have a microfiber cloth again.

By looking at the wide variety of products, i would consider buying Meguiars products when I am cleaning my car with water. What would you recommend me to buy when I am cleaning my car with water?
Meguiars Shampoo?
or what products am I supposed to have in my kit for washing my car on regular basis after I'm done waxing.
I have heard there are shampoo's having wax mixed which lasts for few washes...

Edit: i know long post going here and there, but i am little confused :P

AusTiida 07-30-2013 10:50 PM

The main trick will be to not use too much product. If you put too much on its hard work and dries really white. You only need to use a little bit and rub it hard only on the scratched areas.

To 'buff' it off, you just need to use some elbow grease to literally rub back and forth across the bodywork you've polished with a clean cloth, this 'buffs' off the residual polish left over (and with Turtle wax, it'll be the white stuff)

Use a quality washing additive (car wash) and wash the car with water ( I assume this is what you're asking) before polishing. Polishing or waxing a dirty car will only cause more damage as you rub dirt particles into the top coat of your car.

sgvaibhav 07-31-2013 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AusTiida (Post 112282)
The main trick will be to not use too much product. If you put too much on its hard work and dries really white. You only need to use a little bit and rub it hard only on the scratched areas.

To 'buff' it off, you just need to use some elbow grease to literally rub back and forth across the bodywork you've polished with a clean cloth, this 'buffs' off the residual polish left over (and with Turtle wax, it'll be the white stuff)

Oh..
And the same applies to wax as well??

Quote:

Use a quality washing additive (car wash) and wash the car with water ( I assume this is what you're asking) before polishing. Polishing or waxing a dirty car will only cause more damage as you rub dirt particles into the top coat of your car.
I meant a Meguiars car wash product for daily washes, like a shampoo or something.

AusTiida 07-31-2013 06:38 AM

Yeah too much wax and you'll end up with it being a super challenge to buff off.

I use the Meguiars Gold Class Shampoo, if you put your hand in the bucket you can actually feel the softness, as bizzare as that sounds :P

GOLD CLASS CAR WASH SHAMPOO & CONDITIONER | Meguiar's

RedAlertV 07-31-2013 01:15 PM

All very useful tips Aus, I too have a few scratches I would like to get rid of. These tips will come in handy. Thanks =)

AusTiida 07-31-2013 02:52 PM

My pleasure bro, if you need advice on product choice or application, hit me up :)

sgvaibhav 08-13-2013 07:44 AM

I was checking the Meguairs products i can get here in my local market.

These are the car wash products available in the shops here...

NXT GENERATION CAR WASH | Meguiar's
GOLD CLASS CAR WASH SHAMPOO & CONDITIONER | Meguiar's
ULTIMATE WASH N WAX | Meguiar's

I was wondering if wash n wax is good for daily use or gold class car wash shampoo & conditioner dominates the category.

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Regarding waxing, these are the instructions mentioned on the box "Turtle Wax - Super Hard Shell Paste Wax" - Shake well before using. Apply on a cool clean surface, not in direct sunlight. Apply a small amount of product onto a damp foam applicator or cloth and spread evenly on one section at a time. After drying to a haze, remove excess and buff lightly for maximum shine.

I found this video -
And i was wondering that does the-
applicator at 45s have to be wet?
cloth at 1:22 have to be wet?

AusTiida 08-13-2013 09:21 AM

You can't go wrong with any of the washes, I just prefer the Gold Class myself.

You can use a damp applicator, I don't but you could if you wanted to (damp, not wet). I wouldn't be buffing with a damp cloth, and even in this video he's using dry applicators and polishing towels.

I'm no expert, I just do what I know works and I'm a stickler for polishing and cleaning my car so I've used hundreds of products over the last ten years in retail and 18 years of owning and driving cars.

Don't over-complicate it, you'll just confuse yourself. Pretty much how that video is shown is what you want to do.


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