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I bring my Versa to the dealer for the oil change. What does the dealer use and what other brands do you guys recommend?

I've used brands such as quaker state, valvoline, pennzoil, castrol, AMSOIL. Not sure what the differences are.
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I bring my Versa to the dealer for the oil change. What does the dealer use and what other brands do you guys recommend?

I've used brands such as quaker state, valvoline, pennzoil, castrol, AMSOIL. Not sure what the differences are.
I think each dealer uses a different brand. I'm not 100% on that, but thats what i think. I had my first oil change on the V at the dealer last month. The sticker said Valvoline. I guess thats what they used. I've been told by mechanics not to use Pennzoil. I was told they cause sludge. I'm sure there are others who swear by it. But most mechanics I have talked to swear by Valvoline.
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Okay, a brief lesson in oils:

Most oils are basically the same, some are mineral based, some synthetic, some a mixture of the two (semi-synthetic)

Nearly all new cars run synthetic or semi synthetic blends. Mineral based oils re primarily used for older engines now.

Viscosity is the key.

Viscosity (how thick the oil is) is the key to oil choice. Get an oil that's too thick and you're putting extra pressure on engine parts, get one too thin and its seep past rings, out of gaskets etc etc.

How do you know how thick an oil is? You'll notice there is two numbers to an oil. eg. 15W-50

The first number is a cold viscosity, the second an 'operating temperature' viscosity.

The LOWER the number, the thinner the oil.

A racing oil, synthetic, could be 0W-10 or 5W-10, which are thin and designed for that useage.

An old clunker of a car that blows smoke and east oil would better off using something like a 40W-70. Thick as syrup!

For cars like ours, I recommend a 15W40 or a 10W40 for everyday driving (if you live in the cold cold states, maybe think about a 10W30)

Now, to brand choice.

From 10 years in the car parts industry I have seen a lot and heard a lot about oils. What's good? What's bad? This one is sludgy etc etc. (which by the way, most 'sludgyness' comes from poor oil choice).

Big brands like Penrite, Mobil and Castrol have always been a consistent performer. These would be my choices, unless you can get your hands on Fuchs or Titan oils.

The other thing you need to be wary of: oil additives.

Wynns, Nulon etc make lots of stuff to add to your oil for better performance, protection etc but a lot of these contain additives that clog your oil filter etc.

Be careful what you add to your engine as oils are one of the most overlooked 'necessities' by car owners.

Hope that helps a little

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That makes a lot of sense now. I never understood the numbers and letters and such. I thought they didn't mean anything until now.
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just go out and buy some mobil1 10w30 and call it a day....
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All dealers use whatever they can get for cheap. It's different in every area.

There is more then one kind of synthetic also. The best is group IV which is brands you might not have heard of like eunos and amsoil. Group III includes all your big names like mobil1, syntech, Penz Platinum etc.

Group III starts with regular oil and synthetic additives are added. But I guess so much is added it's no longer considered a semi-synthetic but a synthetic.

I personally use valvoline synpower. I change it every 7500 miles as instructed in my owners manual. I use 5w-30 all year around. I would still be using supertech from walmart if they didn't jack the price up. That stuff got my turbo G20 to 217k miles with zero engine problems. That car is still going today and is for sale if anyone is interested !


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5-30W is pretty thin mate! You use that for an every day runner? Madness! :P
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5-30W is pretty thin mate! You use that for an every day runner? Madness! :P

Madness? Just going by the book



Thinner is needed here in my part of USA in the winter. Summer time I can go with 10-30 but only did once. Then winter came and the 10-30 was still in there and I could feel the engine struggling when the car was cold.


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In Brazil the nissan dealers use 10w40.
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@ Rob, must be why your specs are so low. Ours is 10W 40 here, but we tend to have a very warm climate
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