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Transmission Replacement

Hello all. Just got the diagnosis from the dealership that the transmission is done on 2012 Versa SV with 95,000 miles. The dealer quoted us $3500 and we owe less than that on the car so if I can't do better I'd just as soon pay it off and sell it. Since then, I have talked to a reputable shop here and they told me that if I sourced my own unit they could replace it for 600-700. I found a transmission with 2600 miles on it from a 2016 and my question is, is the newer transmission compatible with my car?

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If its the same type, like if you had a CVT and the one you found is a CVT, then maybe. You can't easily/cheaply swap from a 4 speed to a CVT or vice versa.

Maybe someone else here knows if they have been using the same transmissions unchanged since 2012? That I don't know for sure myself. But if they are not the same type then its a non-starter.
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Mine is a CVT as is the one I found.
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Can't speak to these Nissan directly or exactly but in doing other ATX changes I found it is far better to try to find the exact same year trans as the car, as the OEMs are constantly making running changes in them that often do not impact things but sometimes do in a major way. Say the final drive ratio changed (what does that mean in a CVT? I haven't a clue but don't tell me it can't), the software in PCM would not then match and errors all over the place. Trans needs to be from same model and engine too, things can change in model switching, the bellhousing can change with engine switch and trans then doesn't fit. Control harnesses change but likely not much issue there.

Software is set for each running change as needed. Sometimes you can update that but sometimes it can be a mistake to do it.

One way to find out might be to peruse the ATX parts places for blowups of the trans, if changes are made you should find different parts numbers and even in descriptions.

I know of Ford specifically, I had utter fits finding correct parts for an older one (Contour) that changed up every single year and the one I had, well it changed 3 times in that one year. The Focus cars are bad about it too. I like to never found all the parts it took to make that one version, and the trans also changed bellhousing pattern, electronics, final drive, trans mount for particular model, several things to make just the next year not work at all. All in like 3 years. And the exact same transmission, if by then you can still call it that.
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I talked to the salvage yard with the 2016 transmission and the mechanic there told me that the transmission is for Versa sedans 2013 and up and that the 2012 was a stand-alone on it's transmission.

The 2012 transmission with nearly 60k miles on it is nearly $600 more than the '16 with 2600, so I guess it's back to the drawing board. Thanks for the info guys.
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I think the versa has 2 cvts a 4 speed auto plus a 5 and 6 speed manual now on their line up.

So, what is wrong with the tranny? CVT belt popped? I know honda guys who rebuild those and so should most transmission shops. Granted you do have to get the old one out and new one in, rebuilding it should be too much unless the belt popped and keyways got jammed everywhere FUBARing the whole thing.

Wonder if you can claim the car is totaled under your insurance?
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I think the versa has 2 cvts a 4 speed auto plus a 5 and 6 speed manual now on their line up.

So, what is wrong with the tranny? CVT belt popped?
The Dearlership said the Torque converter is locking up and to paraphrase, "isn't long for this world." Dealership said they won't work on the unit. Same thing for the transmission shop in this area.
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Nissan changes the entire unit out.

Kinda funny really, I haven't done one but looking at the cutaway it becomes immediately evident they have HALF the parts a OD 4 speed does and should be super easy to rebuild if one could get parts. I see though that's pretty much locked up too, in short there are NONE, unlike the other trans.

What all the OEMs are speeding toward as fast as they can, no major internal work done any longer, rather they simply change the trans and other companies supply the rebuilds. Chinese you can bet. I couldn't get parts for a Ford Tempo 5 years after the car came out and entire trans sold only, 90% of the parts in the parts books were already listed as 'NLA'. Why most trans shops steer toward complete new trans even if you can easily fix it for a dollar like I have more than once. Abysmal. Adjusting bands and servos is now arcane art fit only for magicians. FYI, the Tempo I fixed with a 30 cent washer to bump the band servo travel and the car then quit slipping in 1 and 2 to last 15 more years LOL. After estimates of $2k to 'fix it'.

What we are getting to with the education of people coming out of school now. All work fast gearing toward 7th grade mentalities. The only workers you can get (and keep longer than a month) when you refuse to pay over $10/hr. All others are too smart to stay long at that pay.

Torque convertor 'locking up'..................that's a good one, they're supposed to under many circumstances. I'd bet on more bullsh-t there.
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I apologize for hopping on this thread but It is so similar to my problem that I thought I'd post here too.

I recently bought a used 2012 Versa SV 1.6L CVT with 93000 miles. It drove for about a month and then the transmission went out on it. It took it to the local Nissan dealer and they diagnosed it with a fatal internal error. Their quote was for $4200 which is more than what I paid for the car. I checked with a local transmission shop and was quoted $3900 for a replacemnt with a 3 yr, unlimited mileage, warrantee on parts and labor. That's actually a better warrantee than I was offered by the Nissan Dealer... Tells me something.

Unfortunately, it seems that there is a whole lot of conflicting information available online.

Does the 2012 Versa SV 1.6L CVT require the exact same year replacement? Is there a specific model number that goes with 2012 version?

I found a low mileage 2014 Versa SV 1.6L transmission at a local junkyard. Can I just put that in? I have a mechanic that will do the installation 600-700, is that reasonable. Seems like a decent price to me.

As my first experience with owning a Nissan this has been a real poke in the eye. It seems that the 2012 has lots of issues with the CVT.
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From what I have researched and have been told is that if you have the 2012 CVT then you have to use the 2012 CVT for replacement.

I was able to find a unit in a nearby junkyard for around $1,200 and then the local shop put it in for about $800 which included the trip to the dealer to re-flash the tcm. Much cheaper than the dealership was quoting.

Still working 15,000 miles later, but doesn't get driven much since we bought my wife a Jetta.

As for the poke in the eye, I feel the same way about mine now and am wondering when the not-exactly-low-mileage replacement I found will also implode.
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