2013 versa, can't find transmission fluid dipstick - Nissan Versa Forums
General Technical & Electrical Anything not in a specific group, discuss here

User Tag List

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 6 Old 08-07-2017, 05:27 AM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
2013 versa, can't find transmission fluid dipstick

[Edit: thread title should be 2012 versa, but it won't let me change the title]

Is there even a way to check the fluid on a 2012 versa? Under the "transmission fluid" section of the manual it simply says to take it to the dealership. What a pathetic joke.

61,000 miles and I suspect transmission problems. They extended the warranty on CVT for older models. why the F*CK not for newer ones? Because they are pieces of trash. The greed and laziness of Nissan makes me want to puke. I had my car taken to the dealer for maintenance in June at 59,000 miles when transmission was still under warranty and they said nothing about the transmission, obviously staying silent and waiting for it to hit 60k so they can pass the buck on to me. Footnote: I had them flush the radiator and two months later the coolant is BLACK. Can't wait to figure out what the hell could be causing that.

Come to think of it, I didn't start noticing these problems until after they did their service, which included a recall of some sort. Could that be the cause? I've heard other people mention this.

Nissan is a disgusting company and their cars are a pathetic excuse of a product. I bought my car new 5 years ago. Only 61K miles. This is criminal abuse of consumer trust and I will warn everybody I can not to buy their cars. If I can prevent just one person from buying Nissan I'll consider it a personal victory. Anything to deny this twisted company even one dollar I will gladly do. Absolute filth.

PS, I'm attaching a audio file of my car sputtering its lawnmower death rattle sounds

Vocaroo | Voice message

Last edited by Bambo; 08-07-2017 at 06:27 AM.
Bambo is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 6 Old 08-08-2017, 09:18 PM
Level VI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
If the TCM update is the one I think it actually should help, it ups line pressure and that really can't be bad on that trans.

Nissan has chosen that trans type as 'magic box' material and trying like the dickens to not let the cashcow genie out of the box there. CVTs are actually much simpler than standard ATX to build and rebuild but we can't let that out of the hat. They change the entire trans only and no stream of aftermarket parts for anyone to build his own. They don't even want their own techs taking them apart.
amc49 is online now  
post #3 of 6 Old 08-08-2017, 09:40 PM
Level VI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Look here. Go to nicoclub.com and run down the OEM service manual, you may have to join for free. Look for 'service manuals' at top of page, then click and pick 'nissan' out of the list next, then 'versa' on the next page after that. On page after that I used 'sedan' and the service manual list of chapters pops up. Use 'TM' for transmission and download that chapter then pages 129-130 and 237 will show you how the trans drains. Basically complicated to scare people again to go to dealership only to do the work.

A normal drain plug, but threaded over a standpipe that serves as the fluid level control. You remove drain plug and not clear how the stand pipe comes out, it may simply insert to be trapped in place by the drain plug (see page 237). Drain oil and then standpipe goes back in thinking and a hand pump used to pump fluid back in, there is no dipstick tube to do it with. Oil level is correct with standpipe in place and the fluid just barely running over the top of it at proper fluid temp. Of course you then put drain plug back in place over standpipe end. You will NOT be changing all of the fluid as a big bunch is trapped inside the convertor. Probably the 3X method, you change fluid after driving it a little bit 3 times overall to get pretty much all new fluid in trans.

Fun.
amc49 is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 6 Old 08-23-2017, 02:31 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Your car makes the same noise as my jeep liberty crd diesel 2006 :-D
martinsen073 is offline  
post #5 of 6 Old 08-24-2017, 12:56 PM
Level V Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 640
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by amc49 View Post
If the TCM update is the one I think it actually should help, it ups line pressure and that really can't be bad on that trans.

Nissan has chosen that trans type as 'magic box' material and trying like the dickens to not let the cashcow genie out of the box there. CVTs are actually much simpler than standard ATX to build and rebuild but we can't let that out of the hat. They change the entire trans only and no stream of aftermarket parts for anyone to build his own. They don't even want their own techs taking them apart.
I believe you hare 100% correct. Started having issues with my 2012 CVT versa where it started to make a "thud" sound sitting at a light. Check engine light went on, and my power train warranty was due to end in two days. Brought the car into my dealership, and diagnosed it as a "transmission throttle valve issue" P0705 code. I was informed by the service tech that they were going to change out the valve under warranty and the car would be ready in a few hours. Went home, and a couple of hours later got a phone call from the dealer stating that Nissan wanted the entire transmission changed out under warranty, rather than just make the repair. Car was ready the next day with a new transmission along with another 12 month 12000 mile warranty. Could not have been happier.
pimperell is online now  
post #6 of 6 Old 08-24-2017, 08:03 PM
Level VI Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 823
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
The changing of entire trans can be great or it can bite. Most of my experience is with Ford but picking up Nissan fast and how the corporations work.

Ford quit going into transmissions too unless only simple stuff, when they yank they commonly change out the entire unit as it changes everything to be able to say they truly have fixed it. The issue being many dealers do not have a dedicated 'trans only guy' smart enough to be able to fix every little detail and on ATX that can burn the dealer pretty bad, there being so many little things that can be missed one over and over to make repeat customer complaints. I queried Ford techs back in the '00s when I could not get ATX parts from them for a 5 year old car (NLA, ????) and they told me they pretty much never rebuilt anything at all back then, only changing entire units out. Not needing parts meant letting them run out of stock to be NLA faster. It made more profits doing so too.

It has become common to simply shove that onto other entities now in American business, the business model being to sublet the problematic work out to specialists who do that type of thing all day long and nothing else. The so-called 3rd party supplier then takes the hit there for the main company and it makes it easy for the 2nd party to put the blame off on somebody else, customers understanding then that the dealer 'got screwed' too just like the customer feels he has. It lowers bad customer feelings, them being the unlearned they usually are. What corporations look for nowadays, other companies that can take some of the losses off of them, the entire idea of the 3rd party company.

With the mystery of the CVT that will be done even more by Nissan I think. The main issue with CVT is that chain to pulley interface, it's the main wear item and you pretty much are going to be doing major teardowns to get that fixed, there is no way around it. Easier to contract that work out to somebody else to worry about and simply have lines of transmissions just waiting to go into the cars. That way you get out of having a high paid all knowing tech guy around all day who may be wasted when there is no work and it's hard to find them at the lower wages they want to pay now anyway. The CVT itself is an effort to do the same, much simpler inside to lower cost greatly but until they figure out the heat treats and materials needed to make the chains last longer the 3rd party rebuilder there will be taking the hit for Nissan as it changes them over and over.
amc49 is online now  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome