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post #1 of 10 Old 03-10-2018, 12:45 AM Thread Starter
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Another trans fluid thread

Hello. 1st. of all, for those that might think this is a "repeat" of other threads. I DID look. In fact, I've looked all over the internet looking for the information I need. Also after reading all of the questions and replies about Nissan transmissions. I understand many on here have their preferred trans fluid. Those of you, as far as I can tell, are driving 2011 or 2012 or OLDER versa's. So, I hope someone on here can help me with ROCK SOLID FACTS. What i'm saying is guesses don't help much when a $4,000 transmission is at stake. So here goes. Does anyone have the EXACT ATF specification for a 2016 Versa with the 4-speed automatic?
I don't know when Nissan eliminated the dipstick on this transmission. But the 2016 has no dipstick. The OWNERS manual states they recommend Nissan ATF. My local NISSAN dealer quoted me $19.95 per quart. And I specified it was the 4-speed auto, and NOT the CVT. My trans is low on fluid due to a radiator change, and a leaking fitting. When I asked my local NISSAN dealer about THEM checking the fluid level, their reply is "we can do a flush/fill for $189. And that's the ONLY way to verify the correct trans fluid level??? This seems like a nice Bare Bones car, that gets incredible gas mileage. But $20 a quart. And $189 to verify its full, leaves a bad taste in my mouth over this car. If I can get the "specification" for this trans fluid, I will fill it to my "BEST GUESS" and keep my fingers crossed.
THANKS in advance. And I'm sorry if I offended anyone with the way I asked my question. Just trying to explain that What was recommended for a Versa 6 or 7 years ago, probably isn't the same spec. used today.
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Hello. 1st. of all, for those that might think this is a "repeat" of other threads. I DID look. In fact, I've looked all over the internet looking for the information I need. Also after reading all of the questions and replies about Nissan transmissions. I understand many on here have their preferred trans fluid. Those of you, as far as I can tell, are driving 2011 or 2012 or OLDER versa's. So, I hope someone on here can help me with ROCK SOLID FACTS. What i'm saying is guesses don't help much when a $4,000 transmission is at stake. So here goes. Does anyone have the EXACT ATF specification for a 2016 Versa with the 4-speed automatic?
I don't know when Nissan eliminated the dipstick on this transmission. But the 2016 has no dipstick. The OWNERS manual states they recommend Nissan ATF. My local NISSAN dealer quoted me $19.95 per quart. And I specified it was the 4-speed auto, and NOT the CVT. My trans is low on fluid due to a radiator change, and a leaking fitting. When I asked my local NISSAN dealer about THEM checking the fluid level, their reply is "we can do a flush/fill for $189. And that's the ONLY way to verify the correct trans fluid level??? This seems like a nice Bare Bones car, that gets incredible gas mileage. But $20 a quart. And $189 to verify its full, leaves a bad taste in my mouth over this car. If I can get the "specification" for this trans fluid, I will fill it to my "BEST GUESS" and keep my fingers crossed.
THANKS in advance. And I'm sorry if I offended anyone with the way I asked my question. Just trying to explain that What was recommended for a Versa 6 or 7 years ago, probably isn't the same spec. used today.
Give this a look, Open the pdf file, and I believe that it contains all the info you need.

AT Fluid Replacement
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How many miles is on your car? They suggest the only change at 30 thousand miles. Being anal Id do it at 15k miles.

Too much fluid can be as bad as not enough. A little fluid from a leak can make a big, big mess.

So, long story short you just change it early?
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Pimperell, THANK YOU VERY MUCH ! The site you provided Gave the EXACT transmission fluid spec. As well as step by step instructions on how to refill the system with the proper amount of fluid. My local Nissan dealer told me their atf was $19.95 per quart. I found the same spec trans fluid at O'Reilly's ( the spec is Nissan Matic S ) and the ATF is O'Reilly"s GLOBAL MULTI-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid. Please remember, A Petro chemical company makes the ATF for Nissan. And a Petro Chemical company (possibly the same one) makes the ATF for O'Reilly's. Jus saying.

Hello Cobb, My Versa has 18K on it. I used to change my Oil and other fluids early. But I've backed away from that.

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Pimperell, THANK YOU VERY MUCH ! The site you provided Gave the EXACT transmission fluid spec. As well as step by step instructions on how to refill the system with the proper amount of fluid. My local Nissan dealer told me their atf was $19.95 per quart. I found the same spec trans fluid at O'Reilly's ( the spec is Nissan Matic S ) and the ATF is O'Reilly"s GLOBAL MULTI-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid. Please remember, A Petro chemical company makes the ATF for Nissan. And a Petro Chemical company (possibly the same one) makes the ATF for O'Reilly's. Jus saying.

Hello Cobb, My Versa has 18K on it. I used to change my Oil and other fluids early. But I've backed away from that.
Glad I could help, and good luck with your fluid change................
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You use to change it early but stopped?!?!?! What prompted me to was the color of the fluid. My last automatic was a cvt and at 17 thousand miles I checked it with an engine oil change and saw it was dark in color vs a slight tan. I changed it then doing a drain and fill. With an automatic or cvt you never change all the fluid unless you flush so a drain and fill is like a 3rd. Some forums like the honda odyssey one I visit they suggest a drain and fill with every engine oil change as that gets the fluid recycled by time a flush is recommended.

I think using aftermarket automatic fluid is fine. I tried eneos cvt fluid and my next change it was BLACK and the D indicator was blinking. Went back to dealer brand cvt fluid and that went away.
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My Versa does not have the CVT. It's got the Nissan 4-matic regular automatic transmission. Looking through the maintenance schedule. It shows 60k between flushes. (for standard duty) Trans fluid flushes are one of the most neglected maintenance items there are. I see vehicles with 200k + with terrible looking fluid. And they're still shifting. So I justify changing T-fluid every 60k (in this case) as reasonable. Oil is where I differ from "most" others. For starters, I will NEVER use 20wt oil. And I don't like using 30wt oil. I bought a Dodge Avenger with a 2.4 4cyl. with 27k on it. 1st oil change , I put my preferred oil in it. ( ROTELLA full SYN. 5w40 ) Pull into ANY quick lube, and they will tell you "YOU'LL RUIN YOUR MOTOR". Truth is, this weight oil protects the engine from moving parts contacting each other at high RPM's, when you need the protection most. I haven't used 40wt in the Versa "yet". But it has 5w30 in it. And the MPG is running higher than the epa figures say I should get.
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Yeah, Im mixed on the lighter oils too. Use to be you use the weight the temp the engine would be operating in or weight range for the temps the engine will operate in and if it was heavy abuse or use going heavy was fine. If an engine had problems or started to develop them going heavy delayed it needing service. Im talking 20w50 with a thickener added.

They claim the newer engines have tighter clearances and that is why the lighter weight is needed. Of course these newer engines have extra noises and many suffer higher than normal oil consumption too for a new engine.
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Hi Cobb.

I change my own oil. So, I don't hear it much. But over the years I have recommended heavier oil to many people. Most would tell me the same thing at a later date. The oil change place told me "You'll ruin your motor". I got so frustrated with this, that I took my CHILTON manuals to a couple of these places. You can also look online. You can compare bearing clearances from the typical engine from 1970 to 2015 (pick any year) They're virtually identical. I personally quit using 20w50 in my vehicles only because of the "peanut" sized filters we're forced to use these days. So I've switched to full syn. 0, 5, or 10w40. Though I still use 20w50 dino oil in all of my air cooled engines. Best thing ANYONE can do for their mower.
After seeing several examples of oil that had been analyzed, I discovered that most times the oil will tell you when it's time for a change. (not so with newer/low mileage cars) But older vehicles with 150,000+ miles, they will tend to use little or no oil checked every 1,000 miles. then, all of a sudden, it starts using oil. So you monitor that point over a few oil changes. Then back up 1,000 miles. And that's where that particular vehicles oil should be changed. Blow by, run RPM's and general condition etc. all have a bearing on how long an oil will go before breaking down, and start finding it's way into the combustion chamber. (where it burns)
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More of one of those less is more arguments.
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