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Random power issue

First post, so go easy on me. We own a 2008 Nissan Versa and it has been a great car. It now has 110K miles on it. In the last two weeks, my wife has called me twice from work, with the kids in her car, frantic. The power steering will go out as well as the brakes, and the engine begins to stall. Of course, the dash panel is lit up like a Christmas tree. Turn it off, let it set for a minute, and everything is fine. This first happened 2 weeks ago, at a 7-11 gas station right next to our housing area. She pulls in, gets gas, drives off maybe a quarter of mile, then bam. This happened again last night, same gas station, almost identical distance.

The first time, I suspected the serpentine belt. So I replaced it. Thought all was well. Then it happened again yesterday, same gas station, same distance. This is the only gas station she uses. No other gas was purchased between the two incidents.

Again, using the KISS principle, serpentine belt first (1st incident), and since the 2nd incident, I am suspecting bad gas or gas pump. I put some HEET in the gas last night, topped it off with premium and opened it up on the highway. as expected, performed flawlessly. No CEL, nothing.

So, would I be foolish to replace the fuel pump / relay? Or should I wait it out and see if this happens again? So far, we have been lucky. Very, very close to home. But I worry about her and the kids getting stuck on the interstate. Would prefer to not take it to a mechanic, as this is a random issue.

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First post, so go easy on me. We own a 2008 Nissan Versa and it has been a great car. It now has 110K miles on it. In the last two weeks, my wife has called me twice from work, with the kids in her car, frantic. The power steering will go out as well as the brakes, and the engine begins to stall. Of course, the dash panel is lit up like a Christmas tree. Turn it off, let it set for a minute, and everything is fine. This first happened 2 weeks ago, at a 7-11 gas station right next to our housing area. She pulls in, gets gas, drives off maybe a quarter of mile, then bam. This happened again last night, same gas station, almost identical distance.

The first time, I suspected the serpentine belt. So I replaced it. Thought all was well. Then it happened again yesterday, same gas station, same distance. This is the only gas station she uses. No other gas was purchased between the two incidents.

Again, using the KISS principle, serpentine belt first (1st incident), and since the 2nd incident, I am suspecting bad gas or gas pump. I put some HEET in the gas last night, topped it off with premium and opened it up on the highway. as expected, performed flawlessly. No CEL, nothing.

So, would I be foolish to replace the fuel pump / relay? Or should I wait it out and see if this happens again? So far, we have been lucky. Very, very close to home. But I worry about her and the kids getting stuck on the interstate. Would prefer to not take it to a mechanic, as this is a random issue.

Thank you and Semper Fi!
I would go with having picked up some bad gas. I have used Star Tron fuel treatment in the past and it works great. Sold at lowes...........see below:


https://www.lowes.com/pd/STAR-TRON-8...SABEgI5SfD_BwE
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CITGO? My father had a car totaled because they sold him 7 gallons of water.
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Thanks for the tips. Time will tell, as all is well for now, but it was last time as well. If it happens again, then i know it isn't bad gas, and will probably replace the fuel pump. Will post more when I have determined what the issue is. Just need 3 more years out of this car....
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Thanks for the tips. Time will tell, as all is well for now, but it was last time as well. If it happens again, then i know it isn't bad gas, and will probably replace the fuel pump. Will post more when I have determined what the issue is. Just need 3 more years out of this car....
Thanks for the update. Hate to see some of these posts just fade out into the sunset without ever finding out what the final outcome was. Your problems and the steps you take to try and solve them can help other posters with their issues.
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Well, unfortunately it happened again today. But wife handled it much calmer this time. I went ahead and ordered a Delphi fuel pump. Will replace it tomorrow night. Thought we had it beat.
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Well, it wasn't the fuel pump. After replacing it the car certainly seemed peppier, but I guess i just wasted $200. My wife was driving the car today and it happened twice, the second time very shortly after the first.

Took it to Advance Auto tonight and had the store manager (seemed really knowledgable) test the battery and alternator. Both passed easily.

So I am stuck now. He suggested that I replace the Fuel Pump Relay. Well, according to this post, it isn't quite that easy. It seems that the FPR is located inside of part 284B7-EM33A Chassis Control Module and is a non serviceable item. A new one runs $300+, a used one $100+.

If any one has any suggestions, I would GREATLY appreciate it. I would take it to a shop, but because I know it is a intermittent problem, who knows what they will tell me and try to charge me for. All I know, is I can't keep risking my wife and small daughters driving around in it when it looses power. According to her, she barely has time to pull over before it completely dies.

I did read this link, and it was helpful (very much so) but his symptoms were different then mine.
Fuel Pump / Fuel Pump Relay / Fuel Pressure Regulator / IPDM Trouble Shooting

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At this point I would certainly take it to a shop. Maybe there is a service bulletin about it.
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I may have missed it, but have you had the car scanned?? Most of the auto supply stores will do it for free. If there is a code, it might help you pin down the problem. Another thing that may cause the issues you are having is the "crankshaft position sensor". Sometimes it will function when you first start the car, but when it heats up a little, it will fail, and if that happens, the engine just drops dead and all your light with light up like a Christmas tree. It is not an expensive part, and there is a lot of information on You tube on how to replace it.





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