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Nissan quality issues-AGAIN

TOKYO — Nissan on Thursday disclosed two new blows to its embattled management, as it announced a recall of 490,000 vehicles in Japan and disclosed that its shareholders remain split over its chief executive, Hiroto Saikawa.

The recall over an electrical issue is the second largest of nine this year and serves as a reminder that the troubled Japanese automaker suffers from quality as well as management issues. So far, Nissan has recalled more than 1.5 million vehicles in the first half of the year.

Nissan has faced challenges on different fronts. The November arrest of the company’s former chairman Carlos Ghosn for allegations of financial wrongdoing exposed huge dysfunction in its governance. It has also suffered from plunging profits and a string of quality scandals.

No deaths or injuries have been reported in relation to the electrical problem. Nissan said a fault in the electrical system could lead to a risk of fire in some Japanese models of vans and minivans, including the Serena, the NV200 van and Cube.
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The carmaker has suffered from quality issues in recent years. In 2017 it admitted that uncertified technicians had been conducting inspections of new vehicles, and last year it said inspectors falsified product-quality data.
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Is Nissan loosing money in the US though? They can't seem to build Rogues and variants thereof fast enough. Cars not so much. As much as I enjoy driving Altimas and Maximas, they're not on anyone's radar. Sentras and Versas are even further under the radar than that.
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Is Nissan loosing money in the US though? They can't seem to build Rogues and variants thereof fast enough. Cars not so much. As much as I enjoy driving Altimas and Maximas, they're not on anyone's radar. Sentras and Versas are even further under the radar than that.
Nissans CVT transmission and engine problems have taken its toll on repeat customers. Wife's 2009 Versa sedan had its engine replaced with less than 30,000 miles on the vehicle. The engine had a slight noise when we purchased it new. Brought the car in with less than 1000 miles on the car, and the tech diagnosed it and said there was no problem, and the noise was just the fuel injection system. The issue was documented and I got a copy of the paperwork. As time went on, the noise became louder and I surmised that it was a piston slap that was getting worse. Brought the car back to the dealership in the middle of winter, left it overnight and was there when the head mechanic started the engine cold. He agreed, and the engine was swapped out and a "new" one installed under warranty. That engine now has about 35,000 miles on it and is making the same noise the first engine and we will replace the car if and when the engine self destructs. In my 2012 Versa, my CVT transmission went bad with less than 20,000 miles on the car, and I drive like a little old lady. Nissan replaced the CVT with a "new" one under warranty. That "new" one comes with a 12 month, 12,000 warranty.......not much confidence on the part of Nissan that the replaced transmission is going to last. They have so may problems with the CVTs that rather than repair them then just throw in another "so called "new" one" and hope for the best. Now, all the automatic models have the CVTs and I want no part of them!!!!
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That is horrible. I'm surprised you bought a 2012 Versa after having that happen with your 2009. I would have lost my confidence at that point.

We had a few Sentras decades ago. First was a 1993, second was a 2001. They were good cars for us with no issues. We bought our 2016 Nissan Quest in 2017 with 32K miles on it and it was an ex-rental. Currently as 82K miles on it and the only dealer issue was rust on the liftgate at the lower corners of the chrome "finisher". Repairs were made by Nissan last year, just out of warranty. Since it wasn't perforation, or whatever is required for their rust through warranty, they didn't want to cover this beyond 36K miles. I stayed calm and persisted. They ran it up the chain and covered the repair. Since then I've got rust spots in other areas that I'm going to have to touch up myself. I've never been thrilled with Nissans corrosion resistance, but have had good look otherwise.

I've done multiple CVT fluid drain/refills on the Quest, brakes and tires and routine stuff is about it. Kids and pets have trashed the interior numerous times and it cleans up an holds up well so far.

The only reasons I bought the Versa for my kids are they're cheap, economical and seem to hold up OK in the rust belt better than most cheap cars.

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Much of the problem is process errors in the way things are done. The CVT would last longer with better bearing treatments and possibly some engineering changes to the drive pulley loading method they use. Same with the engines making noise to tear up, their use of plated blocks instead of iron liners in them, it is not impossible to do but the quality control is way down there. Plated blocks do not allow that.

The problems are fixable but it shows the downhill slide that Renault has forced them into to be steadily cheaper all the time. Past a certain point it is expected the car quality will go down, it's unavoidable.

Ford has the same problem now after insisting on never yanking the faulty DCT twin clutch transmission. It has lead to falling sales now overall in the company, the word is out that Ford builds crap. What happens when you free up several hundred thousand VERY unhappy car owners to tell the rest of the world their story.

Problems are going to happen with as complicated a device as a car, what is new now is that they try to tell you nothing is wrong with it even more instead of at some point caving in to withdraw the design. The BODs will not let the company look incompetent and end up doing exactly what they don't want to do. What happens in a 'truth is not truth' world now. Some design that should have been yanked instead is allowed to destroy the company, that's as 'Rule of McDonald's' as things get.
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