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sooner4x4 11-29-2012 02:41 AM

Why you shouldn't buy a rental car
 
My 07 Versa sedan has been in the shop the past couple of weeks recovering from a rear end collision. Enterprise brought out a '12 Versa S Hatch. It is black and has 27,000 miles. Here's what's wrong with the rental car.

1. Almost a quart low on oil.
2. Radio tune >> button doesn't work.
3. Radio power button pops out when you turn on/off the power to radio.
4. Cap on the master cylinder is missing.

Item 4 is disturbing. The color of the brake fluid is black. There is a small screen thing that fits down in the neck of the master cylinder. It is full of dead bugs and grit. The cap has obviously been missing for a long time. Brake fluid is hygroscopic and this fluid has absorbed a bunch of moisture. I base this on the color of the fluid, which is supposed to be basically clear. It won't be long before all of the major brake components start to fail. Things like the master cylinder, the caliper pistons, the wheel cylinders, will all have major issues in the future. Who ever is unfortunate enough to buy this car will have large dollar brake repair issues to deal with. Pure neglect.

The clock on the radio is an hour off. I looked in the owners manual to see how to reset the clock, and the radio in the car is not shown in the owners manual. The manual shows two other radios with very different controls. Odd.

Not much has changed in the five years of the Versa (not counting the new sedan). The few changes I have seen between the 07 and 12.

1. power locks automatically lock and unlock on the '12.
2. The little blue light on the dash that goes out when the engine warms up is gone.
3. Oil capacity has gone from 4.125 quarts down to 3.375 quarts based on what I read in the owners manual. That is not much oil in the crankcase.
4. Recommended tire pressure as shown on the door jamb has gone from 33 to 35 psi, for the exact same tire size.

BluV3R18 11-29-2012 03:37 AM

I don't understand why there's no update on the 2013 versa hatch

Underscore_Hero 11-29-2012 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluV3R18 (Post 69368)
I don't understand why there's no update on the 2013 versa hatch

Hopefully the 2014 model will be changed.

And you should never buy a rental Car, unless you have to....even if the rental company takes care of the car, most renters don't. I've rented a Chevy Impala (not by choice) with nearly bald tires before, returned it that day for an Altima, Altima was much better.

JoshG 11-29-2012 04:31 AM

There's a lot of reasons why we shouldn't buy old rentals. I had a rental earlier this year and all I did was beat on it. :shrug:

BluV3R18...I agree. Last year when the 2012 sedan came out in August both local Nissan dealerships had quite a few of them. This doesn't make since. Are they discontinuing the Versa? I hope not. Its a good car. At least mine is.

08versailles 11-29-2012 02:56 PM

My Altima was a two year rental. At 90000km, had crack in block between cylinders 1 and 2, likely caused by excessive heat, likely caused by hot driving and poor coolant or oil levels. There were no obvious symptoms when we bought it at 74000km. Rentals risky!
After we provided our documentation that oil changed were done properly since our purchase, Nissan Canada honoured their warranty and installed brand new engine, using old alternator, starter, A/C etc of course.
I know I posted this failure earlier, but it's worth rementioning for sure that rentals are risky, and Nissan's powertrain warranty is just what the doctor ordered:)
BTW my Versa was a lease return, so far so good
The compromised brake system you mentioned is truly scary!

Versa12 11-29-2012 03:12 PM

You NEVER should buy a rental! People beat the crap out of them and rental companies don't care because they sell them with relatively low miles.

I just got my Versa back on Tuesday and I had a new VW Jetta rental for over 2 weeks and I beat the living daylights out of that thing! Flooring it when it was still cold, spinning the tires all the time, and fwd drifting! I would say a good portion of people do the same and this reduces the life of a vehicle. Therefore, buying a rental is not an intelligent choice.


As far as #3 I agree. I couldn't believe it only takes 3.3 quarts on my Versa...but a 1.6L is a very small motor to say the least.

#4 - Tire pressure isn't based on anything other than a good balance between comfort and gas mileage when applicable. I worked at Firestone Complete Autocare for 14 months so we had to know EVERYTHING about their tires and whatnot. Our store was #1 in our region for tire sales...to get an idea we recieved a load of 300-500 tires every week....and I had to unload, stack, and put up every single one. Manufactures choose their tire pressure based on a variety of things from load capacity, mileage, comfort, and tire longetivity (if they care).

OneGoldfish 11-29-2012 03:44 PM

i bought my 2010 versa as a rental car from hertz with 30k miles and a free new set of tires for 10k$ total. so far so good, internally and externally. i've come across i believe only two problems, my bumper clips on the right headlight were broken, and the passenger air vent had a mysterious screw that wasnt in the FSM. somehow it screwed the top most piece into the bottom peice from the inside, so i had to disassemble the entire passenger side of the dash lol sorry to hear your experience wasn't good

also how do u know when the engine/engine oil is warmed up if there is no more light??

JoshG 11-29-2012 03:59 PM

That's a great question. I let mine warm up til the light goes away. I thank God for that blue light. :thumbsup:

Versa12 11-29-2012 05:08 PM

I had no idea these vehicles previously had this blue light. My 2012 does not.

Warming a vehicle up differs from person to person. To me, I start it up and drive very "easy" on the car for the first 5-10 miles. Slow acceleration, turning, braking, etc. When a motor is cold the pistons/internals are not at the proper sizing/operating conditions. This is why you NEVER want to WOT a vehicle when it is cold as it will cause excess wear and tear. However, I don't like letting a vehicle idle to warm up because it is a waste of gas and takes much longer for the vehicle to get to operating temperature which means there is more "Wearing" going on. Also, itll warm up faster if you do not have the heat on.

Underscore_Hero 11-30-2012 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Versa12 (Post 69399)
I had no idea these vehicles previously had this blue light. My 2012 does not.

Warming a vehicle up differs from person to person. To me, I start it up and drive very "easy" on the car for the first 5-10 miles. Slow acceleration, turning, braking, etc. When a motor is cold the pistons/internals are not at the proper sizing/operating conditions. This is why you NEVER want to WOT a vehicle when it is cold as it will cause excess wear and tear. However, I don't like letting a vehicle idle to warm up because it is a waste of gas and takes much longer for the vehicle to get to operating temperature which means there is more "Wearing" going on. Also, itll warm up faster if you do not have the heat on.

I just floor it from startup ¯\(°_o)/¯


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