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Swap SV stereo in S 17 model

I have the Versa S and mine does not have BT streaming audio. Can I just get the SV stereo that does not audio streaming and replace mine?
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anyone have any info on this?
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Best I can do is offer some how-to of how I added streaming bluetooth music to the radio we've already got: https://www.nissanversaforums.com/i-c...ock-radio.html

But if you aren't comfortable with basic wiring and soldering it might not be the thing for you. My way is the hella cheap way, though, and pretty easy if you know what you are doing. If not you, you could check with your electrically inclined friends nearby and possibly show them my thread and trade them some beer to get them to do it for you. I'd happy add a remote aux port and/or music streaming bluetooth embed for a friend on a sunny Saturday if they paid for the $10 worth of materials needed and brought me a case of beer =D
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Swap SV stereo in S 17 model

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I just wanted OEM stereo
I'm trying to wrap my head around what exactly you want. Here goes...

What arudlang did to his radio WAS on an OEM radio (base model). His mod lets you stream Bluetooth Audio from a phone to a base model Nissan OEM radio.

There are 3 Nissan Versa OEM radios. The base model (PN 281853VY0A), the display model (PN 281853VZ0A), and the navigation model (PN 281859MB0A).

If you want stream Bluetooth Audio from your phone to the OEM stereo, you need to get the navigation model (PN 281859MB0A). This nav radio will stream music from your bluetooth enabled phone. The Apps button on the front of this radio will let you use the Pandora and Spotify Apps built-into the radio.

Here's one eBay:

15 16 Nissan Versa Single Disc CD XM Satellite Bluetooth Radio Receiver 2016 | eBay

The only way to stream Bluetooth Audio from your phone to the base radio and display radio is to do arudlang's mod. Which is a pretty damn cool mod.

Keep in mind this is NOT plug and play. It'll require some work on your part. You need to download the AV section of the Nissan Versa factory service manual, fabricate a 32-pin harness, match the wire connections from the old 16-pin connector base radio to your new 32-pin connector harness of the nav radio. You ALSO have to upgrade your Bluetooth Module (the base radio uses BT module PN 283833VY1A) to an Altima Bluetooth Module (PN 28383-ZY71A).

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Thats what I've got, OEM stereo, just with a little tweak =P

Hear me out before you potentially waste your time and money on an SV radio. I came to the conclusion that for me, a small mod to what was already there was the way to go. What you may not realize is that the bluetooth transceiver is not actually IN the radio, the stock bluetooth module is in the drivers seat cushion under your @$$, and it is in communication with the radio and steering wheel controls probably through CANBUS, although I am not 100% certain about the canbus part. Either way, this complicates things because its not clear whether simply swapping in an SV radio will work. Its possible you will also need a different bluetooth transceiver under your seat cushion, or potentially even a differently programmed body control module (BCM).

This is just speculation on my part, I don't know a ton about the different stock radios BUT if you search online you will see I am not crazy and that the bluetooth transceiver really is NOT part of the radio chassis. I can attest to this because when I had my radio out on the bench doing my bluetooth mod it was out of the car for a couple days, and I was still driving the car to work without the radio installed, yet my phone was STILL connecting to the car's bluetooth during that time even while the radio was unplugged sitting at home on my kitchen counter! So you can swap in an SV radio if you want but I am skeptical that the radio alone is enough to get stock music streaming to work, because definitely the bluetooth module itself isn't in the radio in the first place, and I don't know if the BCM is smart enough to suddenly enable A2DP just because you put a different radio in... seems unlikely. But if you find one for cheap it may be worth a try just don't be surprised if it doesn't work, there are more pieces to this puzzle than you may realize.


UPDATE/EDIT: colonel clink beat me to the reply, he seems to know whats up with needing a different bluetooth module besides just the radio. Thanks for that mr. clink!

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Best I can do is offer some how-to of how I added streaming bluetooth music to the radio we've already got: https://www.nissanversaforums.com/i-c...ock-radio.html

But if you aren't comfortable with basic wiring and soldering it might not be the thing for you. My way is the hella cheap way, though, and pretty easy if you know what you are doing. If not you, you could check with your electrically inclined friends nearby and possibly show them my thread and trade them some beer to get them to do it for you. I'd happy add a remote aux port and/or music streaming bluetooth embed for a friend on a sunny Saturday if they paid for the $10 worth of materials needed and brought me a case of beer =D
He wants the OEM stereo, not some spam to your crappy mod.

OP, read this thread:

https://www.nissanversaforums.com/i-c-e-car-entertainment/26257-2015-versa-sv-radio-swap-sl-2.html#post248617
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Oh get the bee out of your bonnet, Mike. Your ragging on me here and ripping on me in my thread and what good does that do anyone?

Also Mike, just look at their results in the thread you yourself linked to. Here are some quotes for you in case you didn't catch these when you were reading that thread:

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My mic no longer works so when I try to pair my iPhone
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the 16-pin connector on the base radio handles steering wheel controls & telephone comm. These have to be remapped and connected to the 32-pin connector of the display audio radio...I sourced a pre-wired 32-pin reverse Nissan harness online which im going to use to splice into from the factory wiring
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the BT is a separate module
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I sourced a Nissan OEM Display Audio radio from eBay for $80, an Axxess AX-NIS-ADD-CAM1 harness from eBay... Instead of buying this harness, you could build one yourself. Just do a search for Nissan OEM radio swap and look for pinout diagrams for the 32-pin harness, buy a 32-pin connector and pins from Mouser electronics and fabricate/solder your own harness.
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The Axxess harness HAS to be implemented to connect the:
-Bluetooth steering wheel control wires
-audio steering wheel control wires
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I thought the pinout were identical the Altima and Frontier radio pinout diagrams I found online (vehicles I've seen on other Nissan forums that have done the similar upgrade), but they're a little different. My installer is going to call Nissan this week to get the actual pin outs. So the Bluetooth steering wheel controls aren't working right now.
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I can't believe Nissan would make different wire configurations for different versions of the same year vehicle in production but I guess they did.
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So for now I have no backup camera and cannot use the phone buttons on my steering wheel.
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I figured out that I need to upgrade the bluetooth module (located in the trunk) to get the bluetooth/phone comm working with this newer display headunit.
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The most difficult part of this project has been trying to find a wiring schematic showing the pinout of the 32 pin connector and the location of the other wires.
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Your newer nav radio uses a different bluetooth (handsfree) module than your old base radio. You can find these on fleaBay (Nissan PN 28383-ZY71A). It also requires a slight mod: the new module expects pins 4, 23, & 24 to be grounded. The older bluetooth module expects 4 and 24 to be grounded.
And the icing on the cake is that as of today, that thread ends with the last post a question:
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So changing the radio unit gave you the audio streaming feature?

What is all the information in that thread telling us Mike? Its telling us that swapping stock radios and getting it all to work is not really all that clear cut and simple, and that route doesn't appear to have worked out 100% for hardly anyone without a lot of work and research and trial and error, and definitely involves more than just the radio itself as people are talking about hacking in aftermarket steering wheel control harnesses, different bluetooth modules, splicing 32 pin connectors, etc etc etc. But nooo, clearly my 10 minute mod that can be done for $5-10 without even necessarily pulling the whole radio out is an unacceptably crappy way to go. Riiiigggghhht.

Its fine if you look at what I've done and decide "Thats not for me" but I don't understand your need to try to forcefully put it down and point instead towards a different path of swapping radios that clearly has been a much larger and longer struggle for others who have tried it. You don't seem to have any firsthand knowledge or helpful experience yourself to share on the stock radios, so if all you've got to say is rude comments towards me and a link to a thread that contains more confusion than solutions, why bother posting?
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Part of my own confusion on the swap subject was that I didn't know I had the Mid level audio head unit and not the base audio.

There are four listed on the 2015-2018 Versa service manual.

Base Audio - uses external Bluetooth module. Handsfree only.
No back up camera. No reverse signal at the head unit connector.

Mid level Audio - uses external Bluetooth module. Handsfree only. No back up camera. No reverse signal at the head unit connector.
White main wire connectors are a 32 pin and a 20 pin. AUX input is in the 32 pin.

Display Color Audio - built in Bluetooth, no external BT module. Handsfree and Streaming Audio. XM Sat radio. Back up camera.
If CAMERA button on face of unit, then controls Birdseye View Camera module. No CAMERA button, then single rear camera only.
White main wire connectors are a 32 pin and a 20 pin. AUX input is in a separate 8 pin connector. The pin positions that were AUX in the Mid Level Audio 32 pin connector are used for the Rear Camera in the Display Color Audio head unit 32 pin.

Navigation Audio - built in Bluetooth, no external BT module. Handsfree and Streaming Audio. XM Sat radio. Back up camera.
Birdseye Camera maybe standard on Nav package? Maybe not?

The Display Color uses the same main connectors as the Mid level Audio, but some pins are in different positions and the steering wheel signals need to be routed from the external Bluetooth module back to the head unit. The AUX phono plug input are moved to an white 8 pin connector the Mid Level Audio doesn't have. There on eBay.

Navigation Audio unit does not use the same main connectors as Mid Level. So more complicated to build connectors but not impossible.

Display Color Audio and Navigation head units also take there main switched +12V power from the ACC Relay 2, which retains power after key off but up until first door is opened. This does not have to be changed when doing an upgrade, it will simply go off with key off. Like Base and Mid Audio units do.

Even if you only want Streaming Audio and don't care about functioning handsfree phone. The steering wheel TALK/END Switch is required to be pressed or Microphone wired to new OEM head units during Bluetooth phone pairing. So the steering wheel control signal (ladder signals) still need to be rerouted from external Bluetooth module to the head unit. The YouTube in the post above this one shows an aftermarket jumper that does this for the steering wheel buttons but not the Mic.

Microphone wires can be intercepted at the drivers A pillar "Roof Harness Connector" and route new leads just couple feet to the Display Color and Nav head units. If you don't want to run them all the way from the trunk/hatch mounted external Bluetooth module.
That A pillar white connector only has MIC and Dome Lamp signals. No Airbag wires.

Factory camera voltage is supplied by the factory head unit or the Birdseye control module and is 6.2V, IT IS NOT +12V. If you purchase the factory Nissan camera do not wire to the rear reverse lamp circuit. Run all wires from the Nissan camera to the OEM head unit.
Aftermarket camera can be turned on with +12V reverse lamps signal. I don't think the factory head units have incoming video detect, maybe they do, but manual shows a reverse signal to the head unit wire connector.

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