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post #1 of 11 Old 09-01-2017, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
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So long and farewell, no more Versa for me

Yes, sorry to say I must leave you guys as my Versa has been traded in and I am living a new life as a "Jeep Guy". We found we had an ongoing need in our household for a larger, reliable vehicle with 4x4 and towing capacity.

We wanted to be able to take trips to visit her family in the Cascade mountains in winter in a vehicle that could better handle adverse winter weather, and I need something reliable with pulling power to take my collector cars to car meets several states away sometimes. Then at home up here in northern Minnesota having one good 4x4 for the worst days of the winter so we can always get to work, and being able to pull my utility trailer to get lumber and sheetrock and other supplies as we continue to work on our house.

We were both driving small cars and had one 20-year-old chevy off to the side trying to do those other duties but the chevy was played out, not trustworthy for cross-state trips anymore. I had it for 10 years and it was a good run, but it was time to replace it.

With a little bit of poking and research we stumbled across the newly redesigned Jeep Compass, and I tell you what they could not have released this redesign at a better time for us because there was nothing else on the market that checked all the boxes for me (well, maybe a Land Rover or a BMW, but nothing affordable that checked all the boxes).

The new Jeep Compass is 100x better looking than the old compass:







These are stock photos of one like the one I ultimately got. I ended up with a silver and black in "Limited" trim. Compared to the model S Versa I have really made out like a fat cat. I know have power locks and windows, power drivers seat with power lumbar adjustment. Heated seats, heated steering wheel, heated mirrors, heated windshield wiper de-icers. Black leather interior with the 8.4 inch touchscreen infotainment system paired to six speakers. Dual climate control, built in 115V household inverter for charging the laptop on road trips, auto-dimming rear mirror, cruise control, factory remote start, 18 inch rims, automatic headlights, apple carplay and android auto, the list goes on and on. It has a class III receiver and enough towing capacity to pull my boat and trailers and do what I need to do.

The sticker price was pretty high compared to the Versa but we talked them down a large margin and with some finagling I only ended up adding about $120 to my monthly payment, which is not bad considering the upgrade. Took a hit in gas mileage but this jeep is rated 29-30 on the highway and I've been close to that so far so not as bad as buying a big truck or anything, actually really great for a small SUV with a tow rating. The engine has an optional auto-stop feature to shut down and save some gas at long stops like stoplights and fast-food drive-through lanes. I had one other car with this feature once and I really liked it, but I enjoy being able to turn it off if I'm not in the mood to be "green".

Anywho, I would have been fine with keeping the versa and trading in her turbo civic, but she is really fond of her civic, it has pretty much almost all the same cool things this new jeep has so when one of our two small cars had to go on the chopping block, the poor Versa got the short stick. Nothing wrong with the Versa itself, it was still a great car for going to work and back but we had household needs for a larger 4x4 vehicle and this is how the cookie crumbled.

She is very pleased to be getting two cars out of the yard and replacing them with one, and in hindsight it was a bit ridiculous for me to have two vehicles (the Versa and the old Chevy) and pay insurance and tabs and gas for both. Once you factor in those costs we are not adding much to go this route where I have one do-it-all vehicle.

It has been fun chatting with you guys but this forum is getting overgrown with spam anyways, easily the worst one I've ever participated in spam-wise and I have participated in close to a dozen forums for all the different cars I have owned over the years. Hope the admins get the garbage cleaned up for you guys so you can continue to have fun.

Off I go into Jeep land, this is my first Jeep ever (and arguably my first Chrysler, and my first Fiat too right? ) so it should be a fun adventure. I've already got a cargo rack for our bicycles and some mild off-roading and camping lined up. Onwards and upwards.
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post #2 of 11 Old 09-01-2017, 06:26 PM
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I fervently hope you get none of the recall issues the Jeep brand has been plagued with lately. In my view Daimler gutted the Chrysler brand and Fiat will not be much better based on their past. It seems that Chrysler has lately been in for its' share of recalls with Jeep leading the way.

Personally I have never liked the brand since back in the '70s working on them in the family garage and later when selling parts for them in the 2010s. Take the Ram trucks, they sold like hotcakes but listen to the buyers of them, most wished later they had bought another brand; the trucks just broke way too much stuff of all sorts. I certainly sold endless parts for them as compared to others. Chrysler has a way of looking at engineering that just befuddles me endlessly, seeming to do many things the hard or awkward way and Daimler only made that worse. They for many many years were the biggest wasters of physical space in anything to do with a car and still are now with the 'ponycars' they have now that are actually the same heavy boat anchors they were in years past. I am likely prejudiced as well, when Chrysler bought AMC they folded those engines into obscurity quickly even though the like size V-8s easily outpowered and outlasted their own designs. That AMC V-8 was one of the last and latest American V-8 major designs out of any domestic brand and so trumped the Mopar V-8 (not to mention GM and Ford, the same) in so many design ways it wasn't funny. Yet the Mopar V-8 stoneage design from the 50s morphed into the V-10 used recently, even more wasted space. They never even bothered to look at the AMC V-8 which could have built into the same at easily 100 lbs. lighter yet still stiffer and stronger and pretty stupid that. When you buy a company you do so to your benefit, or so one would hope, all they wanted was the Jeep name and seriously shortchanged the corporation in the way they did that.

Even now they cling to the age old 'Hemi' name which was one of the most inefficient designs out there (I worked on them, and the crap wedge 440s too) and the Hemi now is not a hemi at all, rather a modified bathtub design which at least recouped some quench properties lost in the hemi thing.

But one viewpoint only, I wish you luck there. Many things have changed since those days and perhaps I am full of it.
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Can we ask what you got for your trade?

Yeah, Id like a 4 door 4x4 truck, but they are just stupid expensive. Even light duty ones with 100 thousand miles on 5 years are stupid expensive, yet selling like hot cakes.

Ill check out the the new hyundai one, but either way Ill keep the V if I buy one if its priced reasonible.
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They gave me seven and a half for the V, basically what I owed. We made a hefty down payment on the Jeep in order to keep payments from taking too big of a jump. Insurance costs the same, amazingly enough.

I really enjoyed having it this weekend, pulled the nearly 2000 lb boat rig full of fuel and coolers and gear to the lake, with five people in the cabin, and it didn't even break a sweat. Was getting around 20-22 MPG on flat ground. At the end of the day it pulled the boat back up out of the lake without a fuss. We also used it to drive five of us down an old logging trail to get to a remote field for some engagement photos we were taking, which was fun.

The last time the exact same group of us five people tried to do some adventuring like that in my old chevy it refused to start, and the front axle would not engage so we had to hope to get around in 2x4 with 8 inches of snow on the ground. It was nice to be able to do everything we wanted to do and not question the vehicle.

As you said, amc49, the long-term reliability and longevity will remain to be seen but it does appear that FCA has made a genuine effort to re-group their designers and engineers and put out better products. I hope they have succeeded here but if it isn't doing good by the end of the warranty I won't have any obligation to keep it.
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Luck..............Fiat got some of those issues dumped on them by Daimler.

I'm always the suspicious one but isn't it odd how the major OEMs buy each other and keep just long enough to raid the design and engineering libraries and work methodologies then dump the company later to go on alone? Ford/Jaguar, Ford/Mazda, Ford/Volvo, Chevy/Lotus, Daimler/Chrysler.............now Fiat/Chrysler.

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My buddy from DSRLeasing has transformed from versa to jeep as well, so I can understand the reasoning. Good luck with your jeep, I may end up buying one as well in few years
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This will pretty much be my announcement of leaving this site as well, when the site does not seem to care at all that people inundate it with utter meaningless crap, there is no worth in staying around just to look stupid............au revoir to those of you who paid attention to my rants.
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To be fair the only moderator I have seen post is in FL. I think he or she maybe preoccupied with other things than managing a forum. I use to be a mod of a forum and would volunteer here. I love the one click clean and ban feature of the previous forum.
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Thank you for the bit of advice you gave me when I first joined. Since then I did do an SRI install and I'm pretty happy with the "good feeling" it gives to me. Enjoy the jeepin' life though!
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FYI, I have the ability to do the one click clean and ban which deletes the offenders posts and bans their IP address.
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