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Hello,
I have the above car with 156,000miles/250000 km.
Replaced the spark plugs at 125,000 miles with OEM plugs.
Since then, we get an occasional misfire...
Number one coil has shown to misfire occasionally....All coil packs are OEM..

So I need to replace one coil at least. And I'm thinking to replace all of them as a preventative measure. Not a fan of Nissan's "remove the manifold" engineering.... :-( and doing it over and over...

However, OEM coil packs seem to run well over $100.00 a piece. And since I can't afford to throw money at this problem, was considering buying a set of 4 coil packs off Amazon for between $50 to $70. Yeah, I know, "you get what you pay for.." ...or do you need to pay the full OEM price?

Had an '02 Lincoln that I replaced the coil packs using Amazon as mentioned above. Later was told it was a bad idea, although the car ran fine....

Does anyone have an opinion as to what is the best, reasonable solution? OEM only or is there a less expensive aftermarket alternative?

We're hoping to get 200k miles out of the car or more. However, I don't want spend unnecessarily. I drive an 11 year old car because that what I can afford.

And an "FYI", I did get 35 mpg on a long trip recently and the car doesn't use oil, so it runs pretty well.....

All comments greatly appreciated!! Many Thanks! :)
 

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I had the same issue a while ago, after replacing the plugs with what I thought were OEM plugs. Well, one corroded very very fast and I had to replace them again with plugs bought at the dealer. Coils were ok.

Are you super sure it's the coil?
 

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Thanks for responding!
I'm sure the plugs were OEM and not alternates or fakes.

As for being "super sure", no I'm not. It seems the only reasonable alternative, considering two separate places got codes for #1 cylinder misfire. And it tends to run fine until really warm outside air temps and/or the car "lugs".

If it weren't for the intake manifold being a pain to remove and reinstall, I'd gladly swap coil packs around.

Think I'm going in the wrong direction?
 

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no, I'm not.
I was lucky because my failing cylinder was the 4th, so I could inspect it without taking apart the manifold.
I would change the coil too at this point, but I would also inspect the plug just in case since you are going to access the area. Probably I would only change the one giving problems with an OEM one.
A bad spark would give you intermittent hesitation or stuttering with any condition.

Anyway if you want to be extrasure the coil is the culprit I would swap the 1st cylinder coil with the 4th cylinder coil. In that case if you keep having the issue but this time with cylinder 4, you can easily access it without removing the manifold again and you would be sure it's fixed. If you keep having the same issue at number 1, then this issue is with something else.

what kind of codes are you getting? I would assume P0301?
 

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no, I'm not.
I was lucky because my failing cylinder was the 4th, so I could inspect it without taking apart the manifold.
I would change the coil too at this point, but I would also inspect the plug just in case since you are going to access the area.
A bad spark would give you intermittent hesitation or stuttering with any condition.

what kind of codes are you getting? I would assume P0301?
Yes, P0301.

No reason not to pull the plug to be sure. It's easy enough...

It feels like the coil maybe intermittent. I say this because it seems heat and/or stress (engine lugging) cause the problem to surface. Keep the revs up and avoid lugging and there's rarely a problem...Plus the "Check Engine" light go off after a while of smooth running, once the "event" has occurred.

Right now the car passed the North Carolina emission test, so I can live with it as is. It's been my experience that things like this get worse after more heat and time stress the ignition components. So I'm hoping this will be something I can research and solve accurately... :)
 

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if you want to save some bucks, you could also go to a junkyard a look for a Versa or other nissan with the same coil that is low mileage. Pull those coils, clean them with electric cleaner and keep them. They will be free and probably just in good running condition, I would plug one on the the 4th cylinder because as I said is accessible without removing the manifold.
 

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if you want to save some bucks, you could also go to a junkyard a look for a Versa or other nissan with the same coil that is low mileage. Pull those coils, clean them with electric cleaner and keep them. They will be free and probably just in good running condition, I would plug one on those in the 4th cylinder because as I said is accessible without removing the manifold.
 

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That's a great idea!
I'll have to see what there are for junkyards here in North Carolina. We just moved up and I'm not too familiar with what's around.

I've read that coil packs from either 1.6 or 1.8L are the same. Not sure about model years. Would you know?
 

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If you are around the Charlotte area there's a Pull A Part there on north Tryon. I used to live about 30 miles away from it and have bought many parts there. Although I've never been to it there's a Pull A Part in Winston-Salem too. Pull A Part yards that I've been to are always clean, completely graveled and the prices are very reasonable. Now that I'm in KY the closest one is about 70 miles away in Nashville, TN so it's usually not worth the drive unless it's an expensive part or I need multiple parts.
 

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If you are around the Charlotte area there's a Pull A Part there on north Tryon. I used to live about 30 miles away from it and have bought many parts there. Although I've never been to it there's a Pull A Part in Winston-Salem too. Pull A Part yards that I've been to are always clean, completely graveled and the prices are very reasonable. Now that I'm in KY the closest one is about 70 miles away in Nashville, TN so it's usually not worth the drive unless it's an expensive part or I need multiple parts.
That's GREAT!!!
Actually, we live in Thomasville so Winston-Salem is perfect :)

Maybe in the future I could go to Pull-A-Part for you and send it you!! :)

Many Thanks!
 

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That's GREAT!!!
Actually, we live in Thomasville so Winston-Salem is perfect :)

Maybe in the future I could go to Pull-A-Part for you and send it you!! :)

Many Thanks!
To save an unnecessary trip you can go to www.pullapart.com and pull up an inventory of the Versa they have on their yard. You can also check prices of individual items on their site. Last time I went to Nashville Pull A Part was to get a spare wheel for a full size spare for my Versa and one for my son's Sentra. The local junkyards wanted $50 each. I got both wheels at Pull A Part for about $27 if I recall correctly. Admission to the yard used to be $1 but I think they've gone up to $2 now. When I lived near Charlotte my daily driver was an '88 Ford Escort with over 500K miles on it. Pull A Part was the only yard that had any 1st generation Escorts in them. I'd often find 1st generation Escorts that had just gone on the lot with tires that still had 75-90% of the tread left and could buy the wheels and tires for about $15 each. All I'd have to do is just swap out the wheels with the ones I'd got at the junkyard so no mounting and balancing to pay. I couldn't help but notice your user name Rick1959. My name is also Rick and my birthyear is 1959.
 

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To save an unnecessary trip you can go to www.pullapart.com and pull up an inventory of the Versa they have on their yard. You can also check prices of individual items on their site. Last time I went to Nashville Pull A Part was to get a spare wheel for a full size spare for my Versa and one for my son's Sentra. The local junkyards wanted $50 each. I got both wheels at Pull A Part for about $27 if I recall correctly. Admission to the yard used to be $1 but I think they've gone up to $2 now. When I lived near Charlotte my daily driver was an '88 Ford Escort with over 500K miles on it. Pull A Part was the only yard that had any 1st generation Escorts in them. I'd often find 1st generation Escorts that had just gone on the lot with tires that still had 75-90% of the tread left and could buy the wheels and tires for about $15 each. All I'd have to do is just swap out the wheels with the ones I'd got at the junkyard so no mounting and balancing to pay. I couldn't help but notice your user name Rick1959. My name is also Rick and my birthyear is 1959.
Hey, you're a "49er?" Yup, know what I mean? I was born on the "Ides of March" if that helps... :)

That website is GREAT! Thank You!!

You know, when I was up in Greensboro in '09, that may have been the place I went...Had a '89 Lincoln Town Car that had a headlight switch that went bad. Got a switch that was exactly right for five bucks. Couple of weeks later, I went back and found any pre-'90 Lincoln had been crushed. So was I....

And the tire idea sounds great as well. At least one steel wheel has a slightly flatten area along the inside lip of the wheel...
Would you know if there's possibly some other wheel that properly fits Versa? I should look into it and see. Maybe there's a better rim to find...?

Something for another thread :)

Many Thanks for your help....Rick!!
 

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I'm not originally from NC. I was born and raised in KY but moved to NC for work in the '80's and stayed there until 2010. When my dad passed away in 2010 we decided we needed to move back to KY so we'd be close to mom and be able to help her out more.

I don't know what wheels will fit off of other cars but found a site for cross referencing them. Bolt Pattern Cross Reference - What Wheels Fit?
 

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Many Thanks again!

Ahhh, OK. It's nice to be able to go back.. :)
My dad passed in 1989. Mom in 2010. No brothers or sisters or other family now....
I'm originally from Connecticut...Like to go back but can't afford it.

Off to check on wheels :)
 

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UPDATE!

I went to Pull-A-Part and found a 2011 Versa and got the coil packs. Sadly, the boots didn't survive, but still OK.
$43.00 plus tax for the 4 of them, I believe.

Soon as we have a warm day soon, I'll changing them out.

Have a great weekend!
 

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If that doesn't fix it, it could be an intake man leak (less common to get worse when warmed up though, and would only be an issue at idle) since you were just in there, an injector, or compression issue.
 

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Thanks for help!
I'm not a "fan" of plastic intakes....Must mean I'm old and not with today's program.... :)
Yeah, I am putting a fresh intake gasket when I go in and try the new next?) coil pack. Not something to scrimp on, I believe. Replaced the intake and throttle body (MAF) gasket when I changed the plugs 30k miles ago.

I'll keep in mind your thoughts as I go along.

And, I'm being careful to not have grand expectations of things like electronics from a junkyard pull. Time, heat and possible lack of maintenance, keep me from over-exuberance... Fact is, one of the coil packs from PullAPart looks to be aftermarket. Thought about trying another car for parts, then figured I should be able to get a coil pack that isn't a klinker....Hopefully!

Car runs well and gets 35mpg, with only occasional hiccups. It passed NC vehicle inspection, so this is now a matter of fixing it right, as time permits....

I'm really impressed with this car overall. Expect it will see 200K miles.... :)
 
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