2014 Versa 109 Hp,"WOW!" Good Move, Or Bad

true dat, so we took the Altima to Florida
my Versa did pretty well through Virginia and Tennessee with just me, wife and one bag
my old 93 Topaz not so much, left it in 4th gear through the whole mountainous bit to South Carolina, got 39 mpg Imperial in 2003...i remember gas was $1.29 per gallon!!!

It's all about engine tuning, I'm pretty sure they can pull out more power if they want but as is the way with this things they figure most of time the car will be only one driver a passenger or two and be commuting around town so they did not bother to keep cost down. Plus it's a global car so more common they can keep them the cheaper it is. Easiest way to keep fuel economy up like you said but yeah I agree a bit more power is never a bad thing.

Heck the new Sentra is a huge car like a midsize car from the 90s, I could see it with a 3.0L V6 out of my old 95 Maxima or offer a powerful 2.5L unit.

You are forgetting the new car is 300+ lbs lighter also. I'm betting power to weight is just about the same. The old 1.8 was prone to blowing up, got poor gas mileage by most and was loud. I'm with you guys in wishing it had more power but I don't think most people will even notice unless your an enthusiest. They will notice the savings at the pump though.

What exactly do you mean blowing up?

I mean engine failure. There are a bunch of people on this tiny forum who's MR18DE's broke. A search on google shows alot more.

Paulieboi said:

What exactly do you mean blowing up?

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usually failure with cylinder 3.

robj80 said:

I mean engine failure. There are a bunch of people on this tiny forum who's MR18DE's broke. A search on google shows alot more.

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Hey they weren't that bad! I have a couple of techs I know that work at different Nissan Dealers and they've only run into a couple bad MR's since the Versa/Sentra's came out.

AND with Scott and his crew working on the Note I think/hope you'll see more for the HR16's in the near future....and as a side note the three cylinder HR12 is Supercharged which is in the 010 Micra and 012 Note overseas from my understanding!

Food for thought! :smile5:

They might not have been too bad and it might have only been a small number but you can't deny there were quite a few people here who had the issue.

I wish we got the supercharged engine. Sure only a 3 cylinder but I wiuld love to see a tiny car like this with a supercharged whining. Be like a big toy!

robj80 said:

They might not have been too bad and it might have only been a small number but you can't deny there were quite a few people here who had the issue.

I wish we got the supercharged engine. Sure only a 3 cylinder but I wiuld love to see a tiny car like this with a supercharged whining. Be like a big toy!

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I still say that someone needs to do a drop in MR16DDT in place of a MR18. Then remap for boost!

Edit: On the first episode of Top Gear Season 20, the Renault Sport Clio, which has the MR16DDT, was reviewed. It did beat the Fiesta ST in a drag race! Just think about that in a Versa!

I believe nissan is targeting people who want to save money on gas and save money on car payments.

basically targeting people like me, who just drive to work and school and back home.


if I wanted power and save money on gas I would get the ford cmax
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/08/2013-ford-c-max-hybrid-fd.jpg
2.0 188hp and 47MPG but I would not pay 30,000.00 bc i still have to do the speed limit like everyone else :thumb2:


found this video on youtube about the note

Red_Alert said:

I still say that someone needs to do a drop in MR16DDT in place of a MR18. Then remap for boost!

Edit: On the first episode of Top Gear Season 20, the Renault Sport Clio, which has the MR16DDT, was reviewed. It did beat the Fiesta ST in a drag race! Just think about that in a Versa!

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Nissan definitely needs to use that engine in something else. It seems to be a nice power plant. Not sure on the long term reliability yet but there is a guy right here in CT that reprograms the ECU or does something and gets really nice gains. Getting the engine over 200hp to the wheels seems very easy.

BluV3R18 said:

I believe nissan is targeting people who want to save money on gas and save money on car payments.

basically targeting people like me, who just drive to work and school and back home.


if I wanted power and save money on gas I would get the ford cmax
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/08/2013-ford-c-max-hybrid-fd.jpg
2.0 188hp and 47MPG but I would not pay 30,000.00 bc i still have to do the speed limit like everyone else :thumb2:


found this video on youtube about the note

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I bought my versa just to save money. It's low cost of ownership is what really attracted me.

The Cmax seems like a nice gas sipper. While it gets a little more then the V it costs $10k more. That's roughly 2,500 gallons of gas in a Versa. That is alot of driving in order to make it worth it. Then again the gas savings aren't everything.

still hideous...

300lbs is easily done btw. low rolling resistance tires...tall skinny hard tries. Lol. Fully loaded 18k thats withought the 3-5k in delivery and dealer charges so 21-24k off the lot. Yup i woulda bought a fiesta for that price

Couple weeks ago i checked out Fiestas. The current Ford corporate front end works well on this car, and the driving position was good [but it was automatic so i couldn't position the seat to the clutch engagement point].
When i opened the rear door, the party was over. There wasn't even enough room to get in and straddle the driver's seat.
Certainly there are lotsa folks for whom this is not a requirement, but to me the Fiesta is a pretty face with boobs on a boar...useless. End rantVersa win

Older V's were #1 for interior space that's for sure. I hear this new one too keeps up the same tradition. Excellent selling point for nissan.

robj80 said:

Older V's were #1 for interior space that's for sure. I hear this new one too keeps up the same tradition. Excellent selling point for nissan.

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yuup....here's another video review for the nissan note

I still love my new sedan at least it came with a spare tire, not like other cars just giving you a can of gunk because they need every last ounce out of the car then still lie about MPG claims.

08versailles said:

Couple weeks ago i checked out Fiestas. The current Ford corporate front end works well on this car, and the driving position was good [but it was automatic so i couldn't position the seat to the clutch engagement point].
When i opened the rear door, the party was over. There wasn't even enough room to get in and straddle the driver's seat.
Certainly there are lotsa folks for whom this is not a requirement, but to me the Fiesta is a pretty face with boobs on a boar...useless. End rantVersa win

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But ironically i could be talked into a Fiat 500 Turbo. Better than sport trim, not a track star like Abarth.
http://www.autos.ca/car-test-drives/test-drive-2013-fiat-500-turbo/

08versailles said:

But ironically i could be talked into a Fiat 500 Turbo. Better than sport trim, not a track star like Abarth.
Test Drive: 2013 Fiat 500 Turbo - Autos.ca

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You should check out the new Fiat 500L (the new 4 door version). They are at the Chrysler dealership on upper James. It looks like someone supersized the 500.