[viet510racer]

is this what im looking for to change out the manual tranny oil?

Red Line Synthetic Oil - Gear Oil for Manual Transmissions - MTL 70W80 GL-4 Gear Oil

or any other recommendations for synthetic oil? links?

thanks

 

[racin4ds]

use the grade and type your owners manual states or else you could have warranty issues... synthetics are fine, just use the proper grade.

 

[Crazzyboy]

Not sure if Redline makes a 75-80 which is what the owners manual says to use. But I use MT-90 in my 6 speed Toyota Matrix and couldnt be happier with it. Still new to the Versa so take it as is

 

[Francesco]

I ordered mine at the dealer last year (it was a Renault gear oil). The important item is to get GL-4 gear oil rather than GL-5 which may attack the soft metal on the synchronizing rings. I plan to change mine at 50K miles and I order a set of 8mm & 10mm square sockets to unscrew the drain plugs this summer or fall.

Frank 2009 Versa S sedan MT-6 with 41400 miles.

 

[fkontes]

What would be the reason to change the tranny oil? I've owned many manual cars, never had to do anything like that.

 

[robj80]

What would be the reason to change the tranny oil? I've owned many manual cars, never had to do anything like that.

pull out the drain plug and look at all the wonderful shiny bits of metal on the plug and in the pan.

Keeping the fluid fresh just keeps it all clean in there and your car shifting smooth. You will prevent wear and decrease the tranny whine and it's eventual demise. I think it's recommended every 60k but I def go longer with no ill effects. Usually I don't do it until I need to change an axle or clutch. That way you don't get gear oil all over the place.

 

[viet510racer]

thanks for the opinions.

changing tranny oil for the peace of mind that the fluid is fresh.

 

[La D. Da]

NOTE! The 5 speed and 6 speed manual transmission use different gear oil !
My owners manual says on page 9-2

"Manual transmission gear oil"

5-speed MT:Genuine NISSAN Manual Transmission Fluid (MTF) HQ Multi 75W-85 orAPI GL04, Viscosity SAE 75-85
6-speed MT:Genuine NISSAN gear oil (XT4447M+) 75W80, Genuine NISSAN gear oil (ETL8997B) 75Ww80, or equivalent *3

So 75W85 for the 5 speed and 75W85 for the 6 speed

 

[SlickVersa]

I am not sure if non-Nissan gear oil can be used long term. In my other cars owner manuals listed only manual oil viscosity and required GL, so I could replace it with Mobil 1 or whatever synthetic oil I wanted. But for my 2017 Versa S 5-MT the owner's manual (p. 10-2) states for manual transmission gear oil:

"Genuine Nissan manual transmission fluid (MTF) HQ Multi 75W-85 or equivalent. If Genuine Nissan MTF HQ Multi is not available, API GL-4, viscosity SAE 75W-85 may be used as a temporary replacement. However, use Genuine Nissan MTF HQ Multi as soon as it is available."

So, what gives?

 

[La D. Da]

We can be sure that any equivalent viscosity of oil is what the owners manual says.

 

[La D. Da]

Genuine Nissan manual transmission fluid is not required.

 

[Francesco]

It is important to use GL-4 type and not GL-5 since GL-5 attacks the synchronizers in the manual transmission.

Frank 2009 Versa S Sedan MT-6 with over 81K miles

 

[Cobb]

Nissan nor any other car brand makes oil. Its typically one of the major brands already out there. Ive heard Toyota is mobile 1 for example.

When it comes to manual gear oil it helps to read the labels. As you can see the weight and gl type is important.

I went shopping for gear oil for the 16 5 speed and ended up with royal purple. Havent tried it yet. I needed some for another car that also took gl4. Before I used the royal purple I had I endedup at napa and 4 qt of lucals oil. I spent like 30 minutes reading labels as they had a lt of oil for non synchronized trannys. Others said gl5 included gl4, but that is not the case as gl5 contains sulfur where as gl4 does not and sulfur ruins yellow metals like the parts that make up synchronizers. :nerd:

 

[amc49]

When they say GL5 includes GL4 they mean it covers the lower spec of oil, not that it is synchro friendly. Mainly as an indicator it has the graphite lubricant additive that positraction clutches need in rear ends.

Hit the GL spec and basic weight of the oil and you can use anything you want and not bust it at all. Having to use exact OEM brands is for the birds. Even though not necessary to change often, the trans WILL last longer with more common changes. Manual transmissions wear to put lots of small flakes of metal in the oil, you are looking to get that out.

 

[Skydona]

Im also thinking about changing my manual transmisson fluid on my '12 versa 1.6s due to a good bit of rolling whine. im going to take my wheels off and really investigate if i need to do anything further than that, but from what ive read, i think thats my issue with that, or maybe my differential, but is that a different compartment for different oil? And if so how much and what kind? Just trying to do things right as i do ridesharing fulltime and i need my car to run for as long as i can get it to. I know i can get ahold of the 75w85 gl4 for the transmission, but exactly how much do i need for that? Im planning on changing it while i change my clutch and possibly flywheel if thats what is making me slip if i drop the clutch at a high rpm trying to get on it usually between 2nd and 3rd.

 

[amc49]

Trans and differential oil are the same on FWD cars, the major sections have been unitized into one assembly.

Trans gear whine where there used to be none says trans already dying, new fluid won't be fixing that. Could be something like a wheel bearing though.

 

[Cobb]

EXZACTLY!!!!! Non synchro friendly gl4 oil contains sulfur vs chemicals safe for yellow metals.

When they say GL5 includes GL4 they mean it covers the lower spec of oil, not that it is synchro friendly.

Whining noise maybe more of a clearance issue and the meshing of the gears vs backlash. More of a warranty vs oil issue. Granted most oils of a qt 85% is just oil and 15% is the additives and stuff.

Ive changed gear box, transfer case, tranny, diff fluid before and have had noises get better, shifts easier, lower temps.

I hate to say it, but sometimes a whine from a gear box means its low on fluid. :surprise

 

[amc49]

BINGO. The last sentence and why I said what I did.

The whine commonly begins when the gear mesh changes due to anything but commonly shifted gear tooth contact from excess wear. Different oil may mod the noise a bit but generally does NOT make it go away when it used to be quiet but then has gone to making noise.

 

[robmausser]

NOTE! The 5 speed and 6 speed manual transmission use different gear oil !
My owners manual says on page 9-2

"Manual transmission gear oil"

5-speed MT:Genuine NISSAN Manual Transmission Fluid (MTF) HQ Multi 75W-85 orAPI GL04, Viscosity SAE 75-85
6-speed MT:Genuine NISSAN gear oil (XT4447M+) 75W80, Genuine NISSAN gear oil (ETL8997B) 75Ww80, or equivalent *3

So 75W85 for the 5 speed and 75W85 for the 6 speed

Please read what you just wrote very carefully.

 

[arudlang]

...what is making me slip if i drop the clutch at a high rpm trying to get on it usually between 2nd and 3rd.

Are you sure you aren't just talking about the normal characteristics of this commuter-grade hydraulic clutch? It seems to have some kind of proportioning in the release to smooth out starting from a stop, thats just what I *think* that I feel though I don't actually know much about the clutch system in this particular car. I just know its a way different, squishier feel and release than all the other cable-operated clutches I've used in other cars