[BluV3R18]

I get 36MPG and here's a video I made

i change the oil every 3,000 miles, I drive at the speed limit..I hardly pass any cars, I time red lights to avoid stopping, 44psi on all tires, keep the RPMs below 3,000, I
change the air filter when is due, and I run 89 octane, I also have the six speed manual, that also helps. I check the oil every week and the engine doesn't burn oil.
I use valvoline maxlife 5/30, and a very important factor is the less I press the gas to go, the better MPG i get

 

[versagene]

Yea, i never said you calculate by checking the gauge, i said thats where i fill up at when my needle gets to that spot. Thank you for trying to tell me I'm wrong, when I never said how i calculate, i just said where i fill up. .. I still divide the miles by the gallon. But if you fill up at like a 1/2 tank or a 1/2 tank then calculate you will get inaccurate results. You have to fill up under 1/4, but don't fill up when its on E, because it will kill your fuel pump over time.

I don't get why it stops, and you click again and get 2 more gallons, we never had to do that with our Versa, your gas tank could be reading differently, or its the gas pumps. When we filled it, we just push the handle and it'll click once, average was 11.5-12 gallons. If we did click it again, it'd overflow, because the Versa gas light comes on with like a gallon or so left, its kinda a neat thing, can help prevent people from running it on E too long and running out of gas, I know if I drove my Saturn on the E I'd run out of gas quick, and I have no light, it comes on when i'm under the E, which means Im on fumes lol kinda shitty.

If they don't reply, I'm sure you can report it to the BBB and get something going on there.

I didn't even think about the OBDII! Do try that trick, it could be that the OBDII doesn't have a consistent reading to actually yield out good results. With it being a loner, you have no idea how it was driving by the random people that have driven it.

you could also just have a "bad" motor, not every motor will get near, the same, or above the EPA, some people WILL get below it, the EPA is really just a collection of data, they don't test every car that comes off the line and calculate. So if nothing else works, most likely you just had a bad motor, that will inevitably not get the EPA or above. =/

Sorry,

Misunderstanding number one: I never tried to tell you that you were wrong. I wasn't exactly sure how you were calculating it and as I said I read some other threads that made it appear that there were calculating by looking at the gauge. My apologies.

Misunderstanding number two: I'm not getting two more gallons in before it clicks off a second time. But after it clicks off a second time you can actually get two more gallons in the car if you trickle it in!!! Why? By law, the car manufacturers have to have the cars set up so that they have an air gap inside the tank, if they didn't, the gas would expand in warm weather and leak out of the car creating a dangerous situation. Another reason is that all tanks have a vent hose that goes to the top of the filler neck to allow air to escape when while the fuel is going in. If you hold the nozzle at a slow trickle, you can fill up the extra space in the tank and vent hose.

Update: My last 10 gallons yielded only 25 MPG. I've been in heavy discussion with the dealer and they are getting in a 1.6 manual Versa in for me to try out. From what research I've done, I believe this is a much more efficient combo isn't it? Due to the short time frame I have here, I would love to hear from 1.6 manual Versa owners - what MPG are you seeing?

Thanks to all!!

 

[versagene]

I get 36MPG and here's a video I made

i change the oil every 3,000 miles, I drive at the speed limit..I hardly pass any cars, I time red lights to avoid stopping, 44psi on all tires, keep the RPMs below 3,000, I
change the air filter when is due, and I run 89 octane, I also have the six speed manual, that also helps. I check the oil every week and the engine doesn't burn oil.
I use valvoline maxlife 5/30, and a very important factor is the less I press the gas to go, the better MPG i get

Impressive! 1.6 or 1.8? What region of the US?

 

[versagene]

Impressive! 1.6 or 1.8? What region of the US?

Sorry, I answered my own questions: 1.8 Kentucky. The six speed must make a huge difference - driving habits too of course.

As I mentioned driving this my new 1.8 4 sp auto as if there is an unstrapped newborn in the front seat doesn't even gives me about 29 with 90% hwy miles. :cussing

 

[Rand0m0sityxX]

Sorry, I answered my own questions: 1.8 Kentucky. The six speed must make a huge difference - driving habits too of course.

As I mentioned driving this my new 1.8 4 sp auto as if there is an unstrapped newborn in the front seat doesn't even gives me about 29 with 90% hwy miles. :cussing

yes the six speed manual makes a difference, it does in a lot of cars. The CVT is good too, i think Nissans 4spd auto just sucks.

I had a 4spd auto 1.8L sedan a few years ago, I averaged 26-28mpg. My husband was able to get 30-32 in his CVT sedan, same motor.

Sorry,

Misunderstanding number one: I never tried to tell you that you were wrong. I wasn't exactly sure how you were calculating it and as I said I read some other threads that made it appear that there were calculating by looking at the gauge. My apologies.

Misunderstanding number two: I'm not getting two more gallons in before it clicks off a second time. But after it clicks off a second time you can actually get two more gallons in the car if you trickle it in!!! Why? By law, the car manufacturers have to have the cars set up so that they have an air gap inside the tank, if they didn't, the gas would expand in warm weather and leak out of the car creating a dangerous situation. Another reason is that all tanks have a vent hose that goes to the top of the filler neck to allow air to escape when while the fuel is going in. If you hold the nozzle at a slow trickle, you can fill up the extra space in the tank and vent hose.

Update: My last 10 gallons yielded only 25 MPG. I've been in heavy discussion with the dealer and they are getting in a 1.6 manual Versa in for me to try out. From what research I've done, I believe this is a much more efficient combo isn't it? Due to the short time frame I have here, I would love to hear from 1.6 manual Versa owners - what MPG are you seeing?

Thanks to all!!

yea, i only just my gas gauge to fill up, not calculate, calculating is all number with gas and miles.

For the gas tank, im not sure my car does that, because my car is a 10gal, and I always fill in 9 or so gallons, i fill up before I hit the E, if i were to let it trickle in when I hit the fill point, it'll over flow immediately.

10 gallons out of a 13 gallon tank? you know you could be getting wrong numbers because you're filling to early. Like if you drove a half tank and filled and try and calculate it won't be accurate. Best results are to fill completely, drive to E (not on the line tho, just slightly above), fill up then calculate the full gallons by the number. Like today I filled up.

9.69 gallons and I went 270.1 miles= 27.8mpgs (I have a different car, so DON'T compare this MPG number to yours lol)

One time I filled up at 7.6 gallons and I got a 26MPG number, BUT at that time I had massive use of A/C and my average at the time was 23MPG, if I had driven more before I filled up I would have most likely gotten that 23MPG.

And you'll probably get better with the 1.6 and manual, the motor is smaller and that with the manual is more efficient, I think the 1.6 owners on here have been satisfied with their tanks, if you do a search (or I can later) there's a few MPG threads floating around on here.

 

[BluV3R18]

I fill up at the 1/4 mark, and it takes about 9 to 10 gallons of fuel and the tripdometer reads between 324 and 360 miles.

 

[versagene]

yes the six speed manual makes a difference, it does in a lot of cars. The CVT is good too, i think Nissans 4spd auto just sucks.

I had a 4spd auto 1.8L sedan a few years ago, I averaged 26-28mpg. My husband was able to get 30-32 in his CVT sedan, same motor.



yea, i only just my gas gauge to fill up, not calculate, calculating is all number with gas and miles.

For the gas tank, im not sure my car does that, because my car is a 10gal, and I always fill in 9 or so gallons, i fill up before I hit the E, if i were to let it trickle in when I hit the fill point, it'll over flow immediately.

10 gallons out of a 13 gallon tank? you know you could be getting wrong numbers because you're filling to early. Like if you drove a half tank and filled and try and calculate it won't be accurate. Best results are to fill completely, drive to E (not on the line tho, just slightly above), fill up then calculate the full gallons by the number. Like today I filled up.

9.69 gallons and I went 270.1 miles= 27.8mpgs (I have a different car, so DON'T compare this MPG number to yours lol)

One time I filled up at 7.6 gallons and I got a 26MPG number, BUT at that time I had massive use of A/C and my average at the time was 23MPG, if I had driven more before I filled up I would have most likely gotten that 23MPG.

And you'll probably get better with the 1.6 and manual, the motor is smaller and that with the manual is more efficient, I think the 1.6 owners on here have been satisfied with their tanks, if you do a search (or I can later) there's a few MPG threads floating around on here.

I agree with all of your statements. No doubt that it's best to fill up when near empty for best overall averaging, the more the better. But you don't have that luxury when taking the car from the dealer on a test basis unless they let you burn through a whole tank and even then it could be off some. Most of them won't loan the car out that long. Sooo one must improvise.

I've learned that if a potetial buyer needs to check MPG on a limited amount of miles, there is only one way to do it - (which is what I should have done).... Warning... do not do this everytime you fill your tank!!! The tank does need room to breath.

Leave the dealer, and immediately pic the gas station, pump, and octane you will use.
Fill it even if the gauge says full. After the nozzle clicks off by itself, barely pull the trigger so that fuel is going in at a very slow speed and keep going till it wont take a drop more.
Drive it as many miles as you can.
Go back to the same pump and repeat the procedure and compute mpg.

Because the automatic nozzles will click off slightly differently with each pump, each fill, angle of the car and so on, the above directions will be the only way to be acurate when your miles need to be limited. With this method, you could detail what you want to check too such as straight hwy, all city, 60mph vrs 70mph, no ac verses all ac and so on.

Try trickling the gas in it with your Versa, I think you may be surprised on how much more you can get in your tank by trickling it in after the nozzle has already clicked off. That's how they got me.

My initial internet search has shown a city/hwy combined average of 33 for the 1.6 manual trans. I pick up the 1.6 car tonight so let the testing begin! I need to give it back in 3 days - or buy it. I'll let you know what I learn.

 

[robj80]

I get 36MPG and here's a video I made

i change the oil every 3,000 miles, I drive at the speed limit..I hardly pass any cars, I time red lights to avoid stopping, 44psi on all tires, keep the RPMs below 3,000, I
change the air filter when is due, and I run 89 octane, I also have the six speed manual, that also helps. I check the oil every week and the engine doesn't burn oil.
I use valvoline maxlife 5/30, and a very important factor is the less I press the gas to go, the better MPG i get

Very nice video! Really explains how to calculate accurate mpg's. Also your driving style is one to follow for optimum mpg's. You are an inspiration to 1.8 owner who are looking for better mpgs. Wish you were closer, I'd love to trade rides with you for a week and compare our numbers. Curious what you could pull with a 1.6.

Sorry,

Misunderstanding number one: I never tried to tell you that you were wrong. I wasn't exactly sure how you were calculating it and as I said I read some other threads that made it appear that there were calculating by looking at the gauge. My apologies.

Misunderstanding number two: I'm not getting two more gallons in before it clicks off a second time. But after it clicks off a second time you can actually get two more gallons in the car if you trickle it in!!! Why? By law, the car manufacturers have to have the cars set up so that they have an air gap inside the tank, if they didn't, the gas would expand in warm weather and leak out of the car creating a dangerous situation. Another reason is that all tanks have a vent hose that goes to the top of the filler neck to allow air to escape when while the fuel is going in. If you hold the nozzle at a slow trickle, you can fill up the extra space in the tank and vent hose.

Update: My last 10 gallons yielded only 25 MPG. I've been in heavy discussion with the dealer and they are getting in a 1.6 manual Versa in for me to try out. From what research I've done, I believe this is a much more efficient combo isn't it? Due to the short time frame I have here, I would love to hear from 1.6 manual Versa owners - what MPG are you seeing?

Thanks to all!!

only addressing the highlighted and underlined here. I have a 1.6 5spd. In 65k miles I have never gotten less then 33mpg no matter how hard I've driven it. You will without a doubt see much better fuel economy over the 1.8 even if keeping driving style exactly the same. I'd be shocked if you didn't.

yes the six speed manual makes a difference, it does in a lot of cars. The CVT is good too, i think Nissans 4spd auto just sucks.

I had a 4spd auto 1.8L sedan a few years ago, I averaged 26-28mpg. My husband was able to get 30-32 in his CVT sedan, same motor.



yea, i only just my gas gauge to fill up, not calculate, calculating is all number with gas and miles.

For the gas tank, im not sure my car does that, because my car is a 10gal, and I always fill in 9 or so gallons, i fill up before I hit the E, if i were to let it trickle in when I hit the fill point, it'll over flow immediately.

10 gallons out of a 13 gallon tank? you know you could be getting wrong numbers because you're filling to early. Like if you drove a half tank and filled and try and calculate it won't be accurate. Best results are to fill completely, drive to E (not on the line tho, just slightly above), fill up then calculate the full gallons by the number. Like today I filled up.

9.69 gallons and I went 270.1 miles= 27.8mpgs (I have a different car, so DON'T compare this MPG number to yours lol)

One time I filled up at 7.6 gallons and I got a 26MPG number, BUT at that time I had massive use of A/C and my average at the time was 23MPG, if I had driven more before I filled up I would have most likely gotten that 23MPG.

And you'll probably get better with the 1.6 and manual, the motor is smaller and that with the manual is more efficient, I think the 1.6 owners on here have been satisfied with their tanks, if you do a search (or I can later) there's a few MPG threads floating around on here.

again addressing bold and underlined only. This statement is untrue. You are still accurately calculating your mpg for half the tank. There is no way it can't be. You are still taking the miles traveled divided by how many gallons of gas you have used. There are variables that come into play when comparing mpg's of half tanks to full tanks. Such as where you drove, climate elevation, AC use and everything else. Say first half tank was mostly highway, then second half is mostly city. Not to mention the fact people tend to drive more efficiently when they are getting close to E. I've calculated full tanks, quarter tanks, half tanks and everything in between. My route is almost exact day to day and my mpg numbers do not vary no matter when I fill.

I agree with all of your statements. No doubt that it's best to fill up when near empty for best overall averaging, the more the better. But you don't have that luxury when taking the car from the dealer on a test basis unless they let you burn through a whole tank and even then it could be off some. Most of them won't loan the car out that long. Sooo one must improvise.

I've learned that if a potetial buyer needs to check MPG on a limited amount of miles, there is only one way to do it - (which is what I should have done).... Warning... do not do this everytime you fill your tank!!! The tank does need room to breath.

Leave the dealer, and immediately pic the gas station, pump, and octane you will use.
Fill it even if the gauge says full. After the nozzle clicks off by itself, barely pull the trigger so that fuel is going in at a very slow speed and keep going till it wont take a drop more.
Drive it as many miles as you can.
Go back to the same pump and repeat the procedure and compute mpg.

Because the automatic nozzles will click off slightly differently with each pump, each fill, angle of the car and so on, the above directions will be the only way to be acurate when your miles need to be limited. With this method, you could detail what you want to check too such as straight hwy, all city, 60mph vrs 70mph, no ac verses all ac and so on.

Try trickling the gas in it with your Versa, I think you may be surprised on how much more you can get in your tank by trickling it in after the nozzle has already clicked off. That's how they got me.

My initial internet search has shown a city/hwy combined average of 33 for the 1.6 manual trans. I pick up the 1.6 car tonight so let the testing begin! I need to give it back in 3 days - or buy it. I'll let you know what I learn.

I'm still not confortable topping off like that. I stick with the click as I've felt it's close enough each time for my calculations.

As far as 1.6 economy please post your findings. Lowest I've ever gotten is 33 and most is 46. 46 was only a couple times so I don't include it in my sig as it might have been pump click error like you have covered already.

 

[Ben_B]

I get like 25 city (at best, but I drive things a little sportily) and maybe 30 highway (80mph, left line, california freeway.)

 

[versagene]

Well, I won't be able to tell you how the 1.6 5 speed stacked up against the 1.8 4sp auto. The dealer was looking to make more money on me after all. It's going up the ladder now. I could not be more frustrated. Last tank was barely 25 mpg with my mild wife driving. Unreal.

 

[Raymond Murray]

the mr18de has got to be the biggest gas sucker of any 1.8 liter engine I have ever seen. No matter if CVT or manual. With manual you can do some tricks to get better mileage at least. There are a few people on here consistently in the 30's with there hatchbacks. But the majority it seems are high 20's.

I'm sorry your disappointed and really the only thing you can do is try and change your driving habits. Some other things are switching to synthetic oil, buying low rolling resistance tires, and inflating slightly above spec.

The mileage may get better as the engine "breaks in". Then again alot of people on here have plenty of miles on their cars and are seeing the same mileage you are getting.

Agreed the 1.8 is a pig on fuel for what it is I’m currently averaging about 10l/100km no clue what that is in mpg and I also have the 6spd manual fun lil car but an absolute pig on gas