Yup. Hey Milehigh, if I was a moderator @ Nicoclub, I would have a 'Other cars than the Versa' segment. I know you agree with them on Hyundai being a good car company. What would have helped myself there is that they should PARK other car discussions in another segment. I don't come on these sites to read about the mighty Hyundai. Maybe if it was discussed in another forum segment, then it's cool. Last time I looked, Nissan Versa has no affiliation to Hyundai whatever.Don't get mad just my opinion. Ciao.