Note SL Intelligent Key

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MLR

Discussion Starter · Aug 8, 2014

I will be picking up my 2014 Note SL next Thursday and I'm poking through the Manual to become familiar.

This intelligent key concerns me. Can it be disabled as far as unlocking the doors and hatch?

The Manual warns:

"When the Intelligent Key is within the operating range, it is possible for anyone, even someone who does not carry the Intelligent Key, to push the request switch to lock/unlock the doors." . . . . huh?

Where's the security and more importantly the SAFETY with such a system?

If I'm a certain distance from my car some carjacker can saunter over and push the little button on either of the front doors or the hatch and jump in?

I understand that this carjacker can't push the Start button and drive away but heck, he got into my car while I was just standing a few feet away.

Is the safety feature the fact that I can still run for my life with my intelligent key safely tucked away in my purse or pocket?:|

So does anyone know if the intelligent key to door button be disabled but still work inside the car so the Start button functions???

Thank you for help and ideas

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08versailles

· #2 · Aug 8, 2014 (Edited)

Idk about the Note but my wife's Charger works this way. If you're more than a few feet from the car, you can't use the button or sensor to unlock the door, nor use the button to start the engine.
Edit...so to answer your question it is possible for someone to gain entry while you're standing right there, not unlike having a traditional hand held key.

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Vern in IL

· #3 · Aug 8, 2014 (Edited)

Wait...

So I'm driving my Versa in a bad neighborhood, and have my doors locked, a Igger can just double push that button and gain entry to rob me?

(it's within range of the F.O.B.)

Open my passenger door and he got a gun!! If I'm parked in traffic, WTF!!

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08versailles

· #4 · Aug 8, 2014

I assume the outer button is inactive while ignition on. Better double check that though.

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MLR

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 8, 2014

I'm sure you are correct but I can't find anything in the versa note manual to assure owners that the system is secure when you are inside the car.

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MLR

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 9, 2014

I spoke to my salesguy at Scarborough Nissan and the intelligent key function that unlocks the doors is disabled when inside the car.

What irks me is that Nissan doesn't mention this 'safety' concern anywhere that I can find in the car's Manual.

IF this info is in the Manual please tell me where to find it.

Thanks for the help

ps picking up my Note SL on Thursday afternoon.

jas32

· #7 · Aug 10, 2014

This feature is not unique to Nissan as I think every brand with an Intelligent Key follows the same or very similar protocol with few variations.

I have read a few owner manuals but I do not recall seeing anything about the assurance you are looking for. Maybe it is just a given that the system once locked, it cannot be unlocked from the outside. Otherwise they are opening themselves up for possible litigation.

I suppose this should be fairly easy to confirm. Just roll the window down and try to unlock with the outside button after the car started to roll and the doors automatically lock.

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MLR

Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 10, 2014

"I suppose this should be fairly easy to confirm. Just roll the window down and try to unlock with the outside button after the car started to roll and the doors automatically lock. "

Now why didn't I think of that??? First test on Thursday afternoon !

Nissan has installed an armrest in the driver's seat but it is a bit too high. Dealers says nothing can be done to fix this small irritation. I'm average height at 5'6" so I wonder what Nissan used to measure the installation height.

jas32

· #9 · Aug 10, 2014

MLR said:
"I suppose this should be fairly easy to confirm. Just roll the window down and try to unlock with the outside button after the car started to roll and the doors automatically lock. "

Now why didn't I think of that??? First test on Thursday afternoon !

Nissan has installed an armrest in the driver's seat but it is a bit too high. Dealers says nothing can be done to fix this small irritation. I'm average height at 5'6" so I wonder what Nissan used to measure the installation height.

Sorry I did not have the intelligent key option otherwise I would have checked it and reported back.

That's interesting, I'm also 5'6" and the drivers armrest fits OK, no problem. I wished it had another one on the passenger seat though.

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MLR

Discussion Starter · #10 · Aug 11, 2014

That's interesting, I'm also 5'6" and the drivers armrest fits OK, no problem. I wished it had another one on the passenger seat though.

LOL that is the first thing my passengers are going to say on Thursday.

Guess it depends if our height is in the legs or the torso . . . whatever it is, mine is obviously in the wrong place. ;-)

08versailles

· #11 · Aug 11, 2014

MLR said:
Nissan has installed an armrest in the driver's seat but it is a bit too high. Dealers says nothing can be done to fix this small irritation. I'm average height at 5'6" so I wonder what Nissan used to measure the installation height.

Mine too high as well, and I'm six one. I keep it flipped back. Maybe I should sell it.
It's not a note tho

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MLR

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 13, 2014

I spent 10 years with a car and no centre armrest and swore never again. Forgot to include height restriction to my list of armrest 'nots'. I thought all the folks in Korea were smaller than us . . .

Pick up my 2014 Note SL on Thursday. Just discovered that I don't get a few features included in the 2015 SL, like navigation, all around (4) cameras, and Rear Cargo Cover.

I was using nissan.ca website and a US brochure which was confusing because they don't even show an SL model. Tonight I finally found a Canadian brochure for the darn car at a dealer's website out west in Calgary.

No big deal, I won't use navigation because I drive 3000km a year around Toronto, hard to get lost. My car will have a rear camera but the antiglare screen is lousy so I'll use the look over right shoulder technique as usual, and I'll summon up some tears if they try to make me pay for a cargo cover.

Can't wait for Thursday!

jas32

· #13 · Aug 13, 2014

Not sure how Nissan Canada sets up their option packages but here in the US the Nav and Around View Camera are part of the SL Tech Package which is an additional $800 to the $1700 SL Package.

I don't think the Rear Cargo Cover (or the Floor Mats) is standard on any Note model but almost all of the cars in stock in my area are typically ordered with both accessories.

By the way, there is nothing Korean about the Note. It is designed in Japan and built in Aguascalientes, Mexico. The engine is co-developed by Nissan and Renault.

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MLR

Discussion Starter · #14 · Aug 13, 2014

Yes I forgot it is a Japanese car built in Mexico. I've been looking at too many cars past few weeks. I was thinking of Hyundai/Kia not Nissan.

In Canada there is the S, SV and SL models so it is a bit different. The US brochure for the 2014 does not show an SL model but does refer to the SV with SL pkg.

Having said that . . . it is hard to tell what is included and what costs extra when one is using the "Build It" feature on these auto websites.

For 2015, according to nissan.ca, the SL will come with the Navigation and 4 cameras and Cargo Cover. Stupidly I thought the 2014 I was getting was set up the same as next year's car.

I'm still looking forward to getting my 2014 on Thursday. I wish I had the 4 cameras but the navigation loss is . . . no loss for me.

MLR

Discussion Starter · #15 · Aug 17, 2014

Where's the security and more importantly the SAFETY with such a system?

If I'm a certain distance from my car some carjacker can saunter over and push the little button on either of the front doors or the hatch and jump in?

Test # 1: I placed my I. Key on the outside rearview mirror by driver's door. Then I walked around to front passenger door and pushed little button. Nothing happened. Went to rear hatch and pushed little button . . . NOTHING happened.

Test # 2: If all doors locked and I. Key with driver inside car and bad guy pushes little button on any of the 3 doors . . . NOTHING happens.

I'm sold on this keyless system . . . until one day I can't start my car. I'm stocking up on CR2025 button batteries just in case!

jas32

· #16 · Aug 18, 2014

MLR said:
.....I'm sold on this keyless system . . . until one day I can't start my car. I'm stocking up on CR2025 button batteries just in case!

These automotive engineers are not that dumb after all! Most of the time they're actually more worried about the lawyers than us customers so the word "unsafe" can never be said.

Page 5-12 of the owners manual tells you how to start the car in case your keyfob battery craps out. Nissan is looking after you! (All other brands with push button start have a back up as well).

BTW, the life of the keyfob batteries on a push button start vehicle is quite short compared to a non push button car (based on personal experience - Push button: 1.5 yrs, Non Push button: 6.5 years and still going strong).

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