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I found this technical paper, when researching the engine of my 2020 Versa, on engine-specs.net.
According to it, 5W30 is the recommended oil.
I'm guessing that 0W20 is to fulfill regulations?
Would you use 5W30?

Oil system
Oil consumption , L/1000 km (qt. per miles)up to 0.5 (1 qt. per 1200 miles)
Recommended engine oil5W-30
Oil type API
Engine oil capacity (Refill capacity)3.0-4.5 l
Oil change interval, km (miles)5,000-10,000 (3,000-6,000)
Oil Pressure, kPa (bar, kg/cm 2, psi)Idle speed: More than 60 (0.6, 0.61, 9)
2,000 rpm: More than 270 (2.7, 2.8, 39)
Ignition system
Spark plugDENSO: FXE20HE-11
Spark plug gap1.1 mm (0.043 in)
 

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Did you look in your owner's manual? They may mention what substitute oil viscosity can be used.
On the side note, yes, for Versa I would use a spare 5w30 instead of 0w20.
 

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The owners manual for my 2018 says 5/30 is OK. I wouldn't hesitate to use it although MPG may decrease slightly.
 

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I've seen the 2019s and 2020s spec 0W-20 in the US, but they may still have a different viscosity recommendation for other countries because of differing oil standards. I'd defer to the owner's manual or the filler cap over something I found on the internet. Not that it would cause any catastrophic engine failure to run 5W-30 in it, but I know Nissan has been going through and starting to overhaul their engine lineup, so it's possible that there may be some small tweaks to where the 0W-20 is a better choice for the newer engines.
 

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I use conventional 10w40 in my '16 Versa and have since I bought it in '19. My owner's manual specifies several different satisfactory grades in it. I used 10w40 in an '88 Ford Escort that specified 5w30. When I retired the Escort it had 518K miles never had a rebuild and was still running under it's own power. I think that making sure the oil is clean/changed on a reasonable timeline is much more important than oil weight used. Years ago I had an oil burner that I used as a work car to and from construction sites that I worked on. It got to the point where it was using/leaking a quart about every 300-500 miles so I quit changing oil in it. Not only did I quit changing oil in it I started using oil that I drained out of my better cars at oil change time for topping off oil in it. When I sold the car it had been over 31K miles since it's last oil change. I sold it to a friend that had just married and needed cheap transportation. I disclosed it's history to him, he bought it for $250. and drove it for at least another 1-2 years. I don't know whether he ever changed the oil in it or not. The reason he quit driving it was because they passed emissions testing in that area and the catalytic converter had been removed years before.
 

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Thank you for the suggestion.
I read the manual b4 posting and I only found 0W20.
 

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For me, it's a matter of convenience and price. I only use full synthetic.
My other vehicle uses 5.5 quarts of 5W30. By buying two 5 gallon jugs of the same grade, I'll have 0.5 quarts left if I need a refill.
 

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For me, it's a matter of convenience and price. I only use full synthetic.
My other vehicle uses 5.5 quarts of 5W30. By buying two 5 gallon jugs of the same grade, I'll have 0.5 quarts left if I need a refill.
As you know from my previous post I'll go against the grain of the manufacturers and I wouldn't hesitate to use 5w30 in it. I'd probably use 10w40 in it since I have several cases on hand.
 

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From the 2018 Versa Sedan owner's manual, page 10-2:
"Genuine “Nissan Motor Oil 0W-20 SN” is recommended. ... As an alternative to this recommended oil, SAE 10W-30 conventional petroleum based oil may be used and meet all specifications and requirements necessary to maintain the New Vehicle Limited Warranty"

So if according to Nissan 10w30 is a good alternative to be used instead of 0w20, then 5w30 is even more so.
 

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I would think that 20,000 miles is too long, specially for this 4 cylinder.
Then again, I am doing 2500-3000 miles per year in each of the 2 cars.
When I used to drive, I did 2 to 3 oil changes/year. Every 7500 miles full synthetic on the 2002 naturally aspirated V8.
 

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WTF would run 10-40 in this?!? The 80's
ended 21 years ago...
I would and if you go to over to www.bobistheoilguy.com you'll find others who'd likely do the same. I've used it in every car I've owned since I bought my first one in 1977. I've never had any oil related engine issues with it's use and see no reason to change what's worked for me for nearly 4 1/2 decades and approximately 1 million miles. One of my engines made 500K and at least 3 others I've had have made 200K and still running fine when I either sold the car or stopped using it for other reasons. I've currently got 2 Fords with over 200K miles that have been run on 10w40 and each uses around a quart between 5K mile oil change intervals. And by the way the '80's ended over 31 years ago. Personally, I don't think I could leave any oil in a known good engine 20K miles and sleep good at night. These light weight oils may be OK but the only reason they're recommended in this country is CAFE standards. Many of the same engines we use here in the US are used in other countries and the manufacturer recommends much heavier weight oils. The owners manual for my Versa has a graph of various weights of oil that can be used in various temperatures. 10w40 is on that graph.
 

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I've been trying but have found no information as to what oil type(s) that Nissan recommends around the world.
I found that Nissan Canada recommends 0W20.
I would like to know what they say to use in places like the Middle East. I have always heard that in these very hot climates it is not unusual to use 10W40 or 20W50.IDK.
 

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Look on page 10-7 of your owners manual. There's a topic "oil viscosity". After reading that I'd use a graph such as this and decide what weight oil I want to use for the temperatures during that change interval. Viscosity - Choosing the Right Oil Weight - CIRCLE TRACK WAREHOUSE | PERFORMANCE RACING DISTRIBUTOR | AUTOMOTIVE PARTS The owners manual for my '16 with the same 1.6L engine has such a graph printed in it therefore I know I'm safe using 10w40. 0w20 motor oil is spec'd to ambient temperatures of up to 95*F. If during the oil change interval temperatures were going to be near or above that I'd at least bump the viscosity to an Xw30.
 

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Look on page 10-7 of your owners manual. There's a topic "oil viscosity". After reading that I'd use a graph such as this and decide what weight oil I want to use for the temperatures during that change interval. Viscosity - Choosing the Right Oil Weight - CIRCLE TRACK WAREHOUSE | PERFORMANCE RACING DISTRIBUTOR | AUTOMOTIVE PARTS The owners manual for my '16 with the same 1.6L engine has such a graph printed in it therefore I know I'm safe using 10w40. 0w20 motor oil is spec'd to ambient temperatures of up to 95*F. If during the oil change interval temperatures were going to be near or above that I'd at least bump the viscosity to an Xw30.
lol! What difference does the outside air temperature make when, aside from startup, your engine always runs at a constant 200-ish degrees? Please enlighten me.....
 

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lol! What difference does the outside air temperature make when, aside from startup, your engine always runs at a constant 200-ish degrees? Please enlighten me.....

Since you don't know how to use Google. Oil isn't just a lubricant but also plays a large role in reducing engine heat. The hotter the engine gets the thinner the oil film. Thinner oil film increases the likelihood of metal to metal contact thus increasing wear. I've often seen water temperatures in some of my previous cars reach 220*-225* in stop and go traffic. It's not likely to happen in the Versa since it has a 180* thermostat but I still see water temps in the mid summer months hit around 185* on the open road. These temperatures are as reported from the ECU to my Ultra Gauge.


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I've often seen water temperatures in some of my previous cars reach 220*-225* in stop and go traffic. It's not likely to happen in the Versa since it has a 180* thermostat but I still see water temps in the mid summer months hit around 185* on the open road.
Just a little note. Having a 180 degrees thermostat means that the thermostat opens at that temperature. The actual engine temperature can go higher.
 

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Just a little note. Having a 180 degrees thermostat means that the thermostat opens at that temperature. The actual engine temperature can go higher.
I know. As I said before I've seen temps in the 220-225 range in stop and go city traffic on 100-105* days then drop back down to around 195-200 once I got on the open road. I've also ran aftermarket oil pressure gauges in some of my cars that were pre OBDII.. When the oil gets hot on a 100-105* day the oil pressure will also drop by several PSI as compared to an 80-85* day. My old '88 Escort used to run between 45-50 PSI on the average summer day at around 55 MPH but when the ambient temps went to 100-105 it would drop to about 40. I also had a mechanical water temperature gauge in it. When the temperature would get pretty high in stop a go traffic I've seen the idling oil pressure drop to around 10 psi or maybe even a little lower at times. I wish more manufacturers would include oil temperature in information available through the OBD port..
 

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Well, I went looking at different countrie's forums/websites.
Apparently in Dubai, and other Middle Eastern locations, people are using 20W60 on their personal cars. I just couldn't find if the Versa is sold there or if this engine is used.
Their reason for this is the summer heat.
 
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