[red_neck_27024]

I purchased a wrecked 2011 Versa S with NO key and damaged wiring harness .
I went to the local junkyard and was able to purchase the Wiring Harness, ECM, BCM, and ignition switch with Key.
The donor car was also a 2011 Versa S , so everything should be the same , right ?

So after I replaced everything as mentioned above I go to try to start it and get a No Crank, No start issue
dash lights , radio etc comes on but when turn the key to start , NOTHING , engine will NOT turn over

Nothing wrong with starter I can get it to turn over
Don't hear fuel pump


Any ideas ?

Would it be the security ?

Thanks in advance

 

[Desert Rodent]

I think you'll need to have the car's VIN number programmed into the used ECM & BCM. There are companies on ebay that will program your car's VIN number into the used components.
My guess is the car doesn't want to communicate with the ECM, because the VIN numbers don't match.

 

[PoMan]

Like @Desert Rodent said, I'd also guess this is a vin mismatch situation.

I know for fact my 2015 S-model doesn't even have a chipped ignition key. They're literally just plain old $2 blanks. When I had copies made years ago, the key place was kind of amazed even.

 

[Moreno valley news first]

Like @Desert Rodent said, I'd also guess this is a vin mismatch situation.

I know for fact my 2015 S-model doesn't even have a chipped ignition key. They're literally just plain old $2 blanks. When I had copies made years ago, the key place was kind of amazed even.

same with my 2016 versa sv. key only no chip

 

[Ecate]

you need to have the car's VIN match with the ECM/BCM (nissan tech will paste your car's vin to both ecm and bcm) but this should not prevent the car from starting if you currently have a match between ECM and BCM and the key.
I know this because when I was trying to add cruise control to the car, the master tech and I eventually swapped both original ECM and BCM with a donor car's and we did this to test a theory before moving on. The car started and the VIN wasn't copied at the time. Then we used my car's original BCM and we had to copy the car's VIN to the new ECM (with cruise control) to have a conclusive match and start the car.
But swapping both of then allowed to start the car without copying the VIN.

So I'm not sure this is your case, and you should check codes. Do you have P1610/1611/1612?
These codes are (1610) either lock mode, or an Immobilizer issue/ECM mismatch (1611). If you have that it means the BCM and ECM are not talking to each other because of what others told you already...but if you do not have that then the issue is not in the ECM/BCM pair.
1612 is about the wiring malfunctioning.

Check codes first and report back here

 

[red_neck_27024]

Sorry everyone for not replying back until now . I have been busy & out of town & hadn't had too much time to work on the ole versa..I do want too thank everyone & especially @Ecate for saying something I had suspected but didn't know for sure "but this should not prevent the car from starting ....". and after looking @ the FSM wiring diagram , it appears that maybe something is going on the the IPDM box .. I wasn't getting any voltage to the fuses that "appear" to be a part of the starting circuit.

I ran by a junkyard and gotten another IPDM but haven't had time to install it , I'm hoping this maybe the issue ??

Wish me luck ha ha

Thank ya'll for sharing you time, patience and knowledge!!

 

[Ecate]

Sorry everyone for not replying back until now . I have been busy & out of town & hadn't had too much time to work on the ole versa..I do want too thank everyone & especially @Ecate for saying something I had suspected but didn't know for sure "but this should not prevent the car from starting ....". and after looking @ the FSM wiring diagram , it appears that maybe something is going on the the IPDM box .. I wasn't getting any voltage to the fuses that "appear" to be a part of the starting circuit.

I ran by a junkyard and gotten another IPDM but haven't had time to install it , I'm hoping this maybe the issue ??

Wish me luck ha ha

Thank ya'll for sharing you time, patience and knowledge!!

it might be. If the starting circuit has some issues, car won't start.

getting back to the VIN issue, the VIN that you find printed on the car is just a number...of course you want to have it matching with your ECM and BCM to avoid issues, but all that matters for starting purpose is the match between ECM adn BCM. If you are positive you have that, plus a registered key with the pair, then the issue is somewhere else.

On a side note, the donor car was exactly like yours, right? You mentioned it was same year and trim (2011 S), but also same transmission? No different options etc etc like traction control etc?

 

[amc49]

I have a Versa S '11 model and that one absolutely uses a chipkey as I have removed the chip to then use a regular key. The chip gets hidden elsewhere in the car to be there when needed and keys lost cannot be a problem. Remove the chip; the car does not start.

I saw some NATS sheets by Nissan somewhere on the web and some '11 Versa models did not use a chipkey, can't say other than how mine is. No chip the car will not whirl starter to start engine. On mine the ECM must match the chip, they compare at key on and a match starts car. You can tell by what the little car icon light does when you turn key to start.

Pretty sure the BCM has to match the ECM so they can communicate.

 

[red_neck_27024]

it might be. If the starting circuit has some issues, car won't start.

getting back to the VIN issue, the VIN that you find printed on the car is just a number...of course you want to have it matching with your ECM and BCM to avoid issues, but all that matters for starting purpose is the match between ECM adn BCM. If you are positive you have that, plus a registered key with the pair, then the issue is somewhere else.

On a side note, the donor car was exactly like yours, right? You mentioned it was same year and trim (2011 S), but also same transmission? No different options etc etc like traction control etc?

Thanks for the info . I am not 100% sure that it was the exact same car , but I was thinking it was ?

do you know if it was the immobilizer would it stop the starter from turning over ?

 

[red_neck_27024]

I have a Versa S '11 model and that one absolutely uses a chipkey as I have removed the chip to then use a regular key. The chip gets hidden elsewhere in the car to be there when needed and keys lost cannot be a problem. Remove the chip; the car does not start.

I saw some NATS sheets by Nissan somewhere on the web and some '11 Versa models did not use a chipkey, can't say other than how mine is. No chip the car will not whirl starter to start engine. On mine the ECM must match the chip, they compare at key on and a match starts car. You can tell by what the little car icon light does when you turn key to start.

Pretty sure the BCM has to match the ECM so they can communicate.

Thanks for the info . I am not sure if this issues is the NATS, immobilizer or wiring issue ?
I did pull the Key , BCM & ECM from the same car in the junkyard , I would think that this is ALL that needed to be changed .

Do you know if anything else would need to be changed

 

[red_neck_27024]

SO just to give everyone an update , well it's obvious I still do NOT have it running

when doing some voltage checking it appears that I am not getting any power to the fuses under the hood in the middle section that control the Fuel injectors etc.
I also checked continuity from the ignition switch where it goes into the fuse box(ipdm), it was good

Also tried hooking up a code reader to the OBDII port & It will NOT Connect to the reader.

anyone have any other ideas ?

does it sound like a bad wiring harness ?

So I went out yesterday and got a new (no not girlfriend LOL ) , I picked up a wrecked 2010 Versa , hoping i can swap parts and test to see where the issue(s) are

IF anyone needs any parts , just let me know , only has 85000 miles motor & transmission is in good shape.
I can ship small parts , if needed

Again thanks for everyone's help!

 

[Desert Rodent]

Is the IPDM in your "parts car" the same as the one you are trying to get started?? If so, (maybe) try swapping that in and see if that makes a difference??